Remember Tomb Raider Underworld DLCs (Story and outfits)? After years nothing!

[Valeriya]

Today Cd have the audacity and courage to reintroduce the sale of an old product while avoiding answering the numerous questions from users, overlooking the fact that the Lara Croft license has now been sold off indiscriminately to dogs and pigs. Card games that no one considers, mobile games that make no sense, partnerships with Amazon and Netflix, anti-consumer companies.
Why not sell CD directly to the Chinese at this point?
The decision by Crystal Dynamics to limit access exclusively to Xbox 360 owners for the Tomb Raider Underworld DLCs raises legitimate criticisms about the exclusive and restrictive nature of this choice. Such a move appears to cater to a specific audience, sidelining fans of the series who own other gaming platforms.
in short, CD and Microsoft tried to force users to buy an Xbox to play such (Story) content.
This exclusivity not only creates a division among players but can also be interpreted as a marketing strategy that prioritizes sales on a specific platform at the expense of the overall experience for fans of the series. While it's understandable that companies seek agreements and partnerships to maximize profits, the decision to restrict access to additional content in this manner can harm the development studio's reputation in the eyes of players who feel excluded, because here we were talking about part of the story and not just skins.
How simple it is to sell your soul for money, lack of transparency and total disinterest.

Unfortunately I changed my mind, and I won't be purchasing this useless remastered version created solely for the purpose of making money exactly like the money that CD received from Microsoft for the exclusiveness of the DLC betraying the users of other platforms.

[DogMeat]

I have no love for CD, but I'm pretty sure this project is from Aspyr. They're responsible for the MAC ports of these games back in the day. Looking at the store page both CD & Aspyr are listed as Developers, while only Aspyr is listed as the publisher.

I'm personally willing to overlook some of CD's hand in this for remasters of some of my all time favorite games.

Respect to you either way.

[Mr.Fish]

did you say the same thing about TR1? you know they had exclusive levels for the pc for first game right? no, you bought tomb raider games after that so you have no point at all.

plenty of games have exclusive system content, you came here to tell us you aren't going to buy the pc remaster because of some console thing, k bye.

[DogMeat]

Originally posted by Mr.Fish:

did you say the same thing about TR1? you know they had exclusive levels for the pc for first game right? no, you bought tomb raider games after that so you have no point at all.

plenty of games have exclusive system content, you came here to tell us you aren't going to buy the pc remaster because of some console thing, k bye.

Every PC expansion came out one-and-a-half to two years after the console releases and were developed to entice people who already owned the console version to purchase the computer versions coming out much later.

All versions of Underworld were released in late 2008... yet only 360 got the exclusivity deal. That IS a different situation... so the OP does have a point.

[dml!]

Yeah it seems like Crystal Dynamics might not have much to do with these remasters anyway. And I don't think they would have come about were it not for Embracer acquiring Square Enix, as they and CD didn't seem bothered about the original games. Embracer have probably left CD to keep developing the next Tomb Raider game, so offloaded the majority of this project to Aspyr. As mentioned above, Aspyr helped port the original games to MacOS so they probably have at least some passion for this project, even if it was a long time ago.

Also, of course these remasters are designed to make money. That's the goal of pretty much every video game. It doesn't mean there can't be desire from the developers to deliver a good product. I don't really buy into the notion that these remasters are such a big cash grab either - compared to a lot of remasters I see published, we're getting a lot of content for the price here. Not to mention they've made the effort to bring these to all the major current platforms, which I think is the best bit. Sure for us PC players we have lots of great community patches to get the originals running, but those on consoles have no way to run them unless they kept their old hardware and discs. The only question mark for me is if they deliver a finished product, but that seems to be a common question mark for pretty much any game these days, and why I don't often pre-order.

[Zaga]

Originally posted by Valeriya:

I won't be purchasing this useless remastered version created solely for the purpose of making money

How dare companies sell games to make money, you tell them valeriya, show them what's what.

Originally posted by Valeriya:

Private profile is not your problem. You forget that you are not on sh!t platforms like Facebook or twitter here!

I agree with him, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones so let us check if your judgment of others holds any merit or if you are just a hypocrite

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by Valeriya:

Private profile is not your problem. You forget that you are not on sh!t platforms like Facebook or twitter here!

No, it is the problem of users with a conveniently hidden library criticizing others for their purchases or the games/companies they support. If you want to play that card, at least play fair.

It's fine to expose shady anti-consumer practices, people do it all the time, and I sure as hell regret or don't feel proud of some of my purchases. But if we were all going to hold an eternal grudge against companies for their corporate sins from 10-15 years ago, most of the AAA industry would have gone bankrupt by now. This remaster will be judged based on the work Aspyr is doing now and the final results.

[Valeriya]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Originally posted by Valeriya:

Private profile is not your problem. You forget that you are not on sh!t platforms like Facebook or twitter here!

No, it is the problem of users with a conveniently hidden library criticizing others for their purchases or the games/companies they support. If you want to play that card, at least play fair.

It's fine to expose shady anti-consumer practices, people do it all the time, and I sure as hell regret or don't feel proud of some of my purchases. But if we were all going to hold an eternal grudge against companies for their corporate sins from 10-15 years ago, most of the AAA industry would have gone bankrupt by now. This remaster will be judged based on the work Aspyr is doing now and the final results.

Of course yes, I have made many wrong purchases too and in any case it dates back to many years ago. However, this does not mean that this is a dirty practice that pays no attention to the users. One thing It's to create an exclusive from scratch and specific to a single platform, such as Bloodborne or other specific exclusives, another thing It's to speculate on an already existing brand that you don't own and because it was a multiplatform title, CD chose to get financed and not caring at all about the users of all the other platforms, despite the complaints and false promises. In any case these decisions date back to the old and useless console wars. Unlike Microsoft, Sony doesn't seem to have made exclusive DLCs whose content relates to part of the story absent in the multiplatform base games, everything was related to simple aesthetic or minor content.
Companies go bankrupt because they are unable to work, why do you think CD has been resold several times?
This remastered could also be a good product, in any case it was created only to make money, certainly not to please you.
The same developers with brilliant ideas no longer exist on CD and this has already been noticed in the new series.
For the rest, yours is a fanboy defense, even though I love the series, but that doesn't take away my criticisms.

[Dgo]

Originally posted by Valeriya:

Today Cd have the audacity and courage to reintroduce the sale of an old product while avoiding answering the numerous questions from users, overlooking the fact that the Lara Croft license has now been sold off indiscriminately to dogs and pigs. Card games that no one considers, mobile games that make no sense, partnerships with Amazon and Netflix, anti-consumer companies.
Why not sell CD directly to the Chinese at this point?
The decision by Crystal Dynamics to limit access exclusively to Xbox 360 owners for the Tomb Raider Underworld DLCs raises legitimate criticisms about the exclusive and restrictive nature of this choice. Such a move appears to cater to a specific audience, sidelining fans of the series who own other gaming platforms.
in short, CD and Microsoft tried to force users to buy an Xbox to play such (Story) content.
This exclusivity not only creates a division among players but can also be interpreted as a marketing strategy that prioritizes sales on a specific platform at the expense of the overall experience for fans of the series. While it's understandable that companies seek agreements and partnerships to maximize profits, the decision to restrict access to additional content in this manner can harm the development studio's reputation in the eyes of players who feel excluded, because here we were talking about part of the story and not just skins.
How simple it is to sell your soul for money, lack of transparency and total disinterest.

BLA BLA BLA

Originally posted by Valeriya:

Unfortunately I changed my mind, and I won't be purchasing this useless remastered version created solely for the purpose of making money exactly like the money that CD received from Microsoft for the exclusiveness of the DLC betraying the users of other platforms.

NO ONE CARES!!

[v00d00m4n]

I hope after dealing with classic tomb raiders remaster (they still has to remaster TR4 and 5), they will remaster Anniversary+Legend+Underworld trilogy based on next gen content for all version (because remember - Anniversary on pc was based on PS2 version while Xbox 360 and PS3 had superio next gen version that actually was on pair with Legend graphics. Also it was nice that PC version of Legend has a switch between next gen and old gen content) with all the DLCs included on all platforms and with most recent improvments to engine.

And maybe someday we will see remaster of Angel of Darkness, with removed stamina and rpr skill ups, improved gameplay and animations, and even finished story based on leftovers of design documents and sources, and with AI used to keep same voices for new dialog lines.

Also, maybe we will see a remaster of unreleased CORE design's TR Anniversary, with TR2 and TR3 story and levels remakes added to them?

I would better pay for those remasters and remakes of all Tomb Raiders prior "survival trilogy" than would ever play modern crap Tomb Raiders like "survival trilogy" again.

[Chelle-corn]

The video game industry is a business, simple as that. I wouldn't get so offended by their choices and what is exclusive to what, they were business deals to earn money. Every big company does it, it doesn't mean the whole team behind the franchise believes in it, it's usually out of their hands. I can understand the frustration of console exclusives and excluding the ones who don't own those consoles, It sucks, but it isn't something to get vengeful about, there are always greedy investors, CEO's and company owners forcing developers to take deals they aren't fond of.
I say enjoy the products you have access to and don't take it all so personally. Without money making schemes, many franchises die out due to refused funding from the publishers since they don't make enough for the greedy hands, just be happy we still have releases, whether they're perfect or not.

[<Samuel>]

The Underworld DLCs are really meh, very small in scale and nothing special that add to the main lore. You are not missing out, trust me. They can keep that kind of exclusive content.

[v00d00m4n]

Originally posted by Sam_86:

The Underworld DLCs are really meh, very small in scale and nothing special that add to the main lore. You are not missing out, trust me. They can keep that kind of exclusive content.

Meh or not, we want complete game!

[Sonic]

Kinda agree