How to make people use my mass transit solutions?

[Sil]

Ok, I've put train in one town and subway in another one, but it seems that they don't like it much. I've done that Carpool Incentive thing, but that doesn't seem to help so much either. Any ideas on how to make them use those more than cars??

[antstubell]

Ok, I'm not pointing out the obvious but you have to think like transport networks in real life and real situations.
Sims will always use their cars when there is no real viable alternative. Sims are lazy, they won't walk more than 8 squares. The lowest class Sims who don't have a car won't even look for a job they will stay home and watch thier house crumble if there isn't a nearby public transport option.
What this translates into is always when building a transport network put all the options near to each other. When you build a main line rail station put a subway station or overhead rail station as near as possible to it, remember not more than 8 squares away otherwise Soms won't "Connect". Also drop in a bus station at every subway/overhead/main line rail station. Sims will hop off 1 transport system straight onto the next. Just like we do in real life.

[antstubell]

MOST importantly, make sure you have a route. One bus sttop or one rail station does nothing if it has nowhere to go to.

[jdenm8]

Firstly: Are you using the NAM? It tunes the transit simulator from where it'll run on a 1.3Ghz Pentium III to a point where it works realistically.

Secondly: Disable the Carpool Incentive Ordinance and never use it. It literally does nothing other than taking money from your treasury every month.

[Sil]

I don't know what is that NAM you said, jdenm8. And antstubel, I tried to first do a cross all over my city with the railway and put stations on the far ends. Then I was adding stations every 2 or 3 blocks (comercial or residential) I've always added bus stops just by them and through the city, but when I click on the stations, it says it's being used by 200 people most, on a 40k ppl city. Kinda disapointing to spend all that money and no1 uses it...

[jdenm8]

@Sil,
http://www.moddb.com/mods/network-addon-mod

The quoted population figure would also include school-age and elderly residents, neither of which commutes to work. Your usage figures however are probably more to do with the game's terrible default pathfinding properties.

[jdenm8]

Tollboothes won't help much, the default cost settings for them are much cheaper than a long-distance train ride.

[la_nague]

first of all, you should installl the network addon mod.
This adds all kinds of masstransit, but it also fixes the traffix pathfinding.
Those people spend years on a good simulation, its much better than the one maxis used.


For actual gameplay. You need of course make sure the route is faster than a car.
And then you have to accept that about half the people simply will refuse to not use a car, no matter what.

so when you got some stations that make half the people chose trains and busses, you did a good job. There is no way to avoid traffic jams in a bigger city.

[Canyew]

One way roads EVERYWHERE! My cities becomes this sometimes and ugh! I been in NYC and it is such a pain in the ASS to drive down each block looking for the correct one way road to get around.

[Sil]

jdenm8 původně napsal:

Tollboothes won't help much, the default cost settings for them are much cheaper than a long-distance train ride.

But won't it make people more keen on riding the train? =D

[Sil]

Canyew Work původně napsal:

One way roads EVERYWHERE! My cities becomes this sometimes and ugh! I been in NYC and it is such a pain in the ASS to drive down each block looking for the correct one way road to get around.

I've put some avenues to help traffic, but when they end (they got to end at some point..)... Oh boy, the traffic!

[Bushman82]

i would delete the road just 1 piece and force them to use the trains.

im on my second city after my first went bankrupt, my first one i had avenues and roads laid down before i started my zones, ran out of money pretty quick.

my second city i ran trains everywhere and put toll booths between all jobs and resident zones, im now 15k under budget each month with only 50k sims and 30k sims commuting from the next city by train.

[xxxStarLordxx]

NAM is not an option for me on my Mac. I wish it was to help with the transit systems.

[TheWildgemmy]

xxxStarLordxx původně napsal:

NAM is not an option for me on my Mac. I wish it was to help with the transit systems.

NAM is for Mac as I use it and I'm a Mac user.

[EyesOfByes]

You can never have to much public transport. if the game runs as real life, then the more you build the more they use it. Perfect example: My isolated cold country of Sweden has a huge industry sector and wealth, why? Most because they realised the need for transport, and the main railway lines built a 100 years ago are basically the same, with a few extra tracks.

So, plan your city around public tranport. Go all bonanza and you will prosper (if the game runs like the real world)