simcity 4 vs new one

[mnBroncos]

obvious from the title i want a simcity game bad never really played one since like 12 years ago but love in deapth strategy games i like tropico but don't want to be limited to just a island. But which one is better and why? what are pros and cons of each of them, thanks for advice.

[Mr Boombastic]

Well as you know SC5 has all ways online dmr. So if you have a bad internet connection don't get it. Also the size of the maps on the new one are nothing compared to SC4. But the new one looks pretty.

[Delta 1038]

In all honesty, get Sim City 4. Sure, Sim City 2013 had potential but they've pretty killed it with a combination of very bad customer service (Namely openly lying) and of course, the infamous always "Most definitely not DRM" online requirement. Now back to the topic;

There is a reason as to why Sim City 4 is hailed as the best Sim City game of all time (You can argue but that is for another time), and it definitely shows. Even after 10 years, the game has aged pretty well with its generally good design and more importantly, 10 years worth of mods especially must have such as the Network Addition Mod or NAM. It is pretty in depth but to level that is barely playable; Sim City 4 is not a game for the impatient. It has quite a learning curve but once you cross it, the quote "You never stop playing SC4" comes to mind.

Now on to the other side on why not to buy Sim City 4. Now as a 10 year old game, I have seen threads and posts on people whining that they can't play it. Now I am using Windows 7 and I have seen it being played on Windows 8; just something to have in mind. Another is that the game is pretty unstable; namely it crashes every now and then so you have to save often (You can get a mod that autosaves). Another that may put you off as a new player is well, the difficulty curve. I have said it once and I will say it again: Sim City 4 is hard. It is definitely not a "casual" game where you can just pop it in and build a metropolis in a matter of hours. You have to know what you are doing, you have to plan it before you start doing anything (Yes I mean it. For example, looking up basic urban planning will save you frustrations) or else you will just fail. But dont let that deter you, this is the Internet. As many trolls and griefers there are, you can always find help if you know where to look. You know, www.simtropolis.com (The biggest Sim City fansite. Plus they are Canadian)

Now on Sim City 2013. Nothing I can say will add to what has already been said; it had a lot of potential but a series of bad and stupid decisions pretty much crippled the game. You could argue, "yeah it's a new game, give it some time" but really, why chance it? Now on the other hand, as it is new, you can probably get it to run on your new Comps unless the server shuts down and stuff.

tl;dr: Get Sim City 4, it has aged pretty well, has libraries of mods, a dedicated fan base, a very in depth game and the biggest thing over the new one, offline mode. However be aware that it may not run on your comp and it tends to crash every now and then and not to mention that it is a hard game that wont hold your hand. In fact, it pretty much tells you to go F yourself.

[PixelCount]

Stay away from the new SimCity!
Now, I can't tell you much about SimCity 4 (I'm planing to buy it after I finish this message), I played it long time ago and can't say much.

The new SimCity on the othere had, I played (tried at least) a lot!

This game is broken, very...very...very badly broken.
The 2.0 patch is coming out on Monday, but the main problems are still there.

The main issues are:
Cities size - super small. Forced "city specialisation"
Simulation - Pretty much everything is broken. Transport, RCI, jobs, education, services, all those things are broken, to the point of rendering this gamy unplayable.
Always online - It matters not what kind of internet connection you have at home. EA servers are problematic as hell. Constant rollbacks. Everything is cloud saved and with servers that can't handle the game ...well, I'll let your imagination to to take over from here ;)

Wait until they fix (if that's even possible) and/or price drob before you buy.

Also, DO NOT buy if you want to mod your game, create pretty cities and generally go "deep" in to city construction.

New SimCity is very limited compared to what SimCity 4 has to offer.

If you are looking for casual gameplay, then new SimCity (when they fix the most problems) will be a great choice.
It's too easy/simple in my opinion.

[Delta 1038]

@onelife: If they fix most problems

[azxcvbnm321]

I doubt that they can fix the problems with SimCity5 because they are core design issues. They use an agent/sink system where agents (could be workers, firemen, etc.) go to the nearest sink (jobs, fires, etc.) and fill that sink before trying to find the next one. That means everyone tries to go to the same place until that gets filled then to the next. This creates massive traffic problems (all workers in your city try and go to the same job, then the next open job slot, then next) and fires are put out one at a time (all firemen run to the same fire, ignore all other fires, then move to next fire). This is a design choice they made and I don't think they can fix it given the minimum specs they have to program for. SimCity5 was deliberately made to be dumbed down so that laptops can play it, well there's not enough processing power to simulate all the agents with good pathfinding algorithms so they used the "find the nearest sink and fill it up" method. The game is also meant to be enjoyed by the facebook crowd, so everything is set to easy. People will automatically move into your residences, even if you have no power, no water, no jobs, rampant crime, ti doesn't matter. You also don't need any commercial or industrial at all. They made ti so that you can't fail so that people don't get frustrated or challenged. Basically it's a pretty program that allows you to take screenshots so you can "share" them with friends on facebook and other sites. No depth in the gameplay at all.

SimCity4 works on my Windows 8 machine. I have NAM and some other mods that make the game really good. I suggest anyone who likes a citybuilder to buy SimCity 4.

[Nut]

Originally posted by mnbroncos:

obvious from the title i want a simcity game bad never really played one since like 12 years ago but love in deapth strategy games i like tropico but don't want to be limited to just a island. But which one is better and why? what are pros and cons of each of them, thanks for advice.

Get sim city 4! It is in my opinion, the greatest strategy game of all time. Mods are great, you can play it on almost anything (I play it on my Thinkpad X200 lol. I am also planning to get it on my gaming desktop.) and its Cheaper.

[leedonald54]

i was soposed to dp the Bata , but because Win 8 got in the way , still Bata tesing Win 8 .To Sim City 4 Ihave been playing it for years , at laest 4 + years and the mod is is huge . The list is unbeavabul . . I learned to make my own , take the water and in god mode and mamke the land that I want to where I ccn connect the squares or land to where they can be onnected .I own 4+ copyes of the game . i could have put it on Steam , it would have gone t my Origain account . It will run on Win 7 & 8 .I don't know is Sim5 is really Maxiis game or a Sony game or they pushed by Sony .As you can see I use Steam for alot . I build High End AMD computers and use Steam as my teast board and glad that they added some game tools that I will be bying .It is funning that I saw this post as I just build a new land mas to build cites on and they run in the back ground even if your not playing . A lot like Vittal Familes , I had to stop playing as when I would get bac they had died , LOL .Your bes bet is Sim CITy 4 Ex , hope you get that as I have bouth ,Have Fun and I think you will Injoy it . I first starded in omputers in 1969 long before Mirorsoft got started ,I would Love to g on , but works calls .

[Triturate]

4 no contest

[leedonald54]

Whould like to try the new one , but will waite for a while and see if they an get the bugs out . An THANKS for seeing what happend and fixed the problem , I so that you had tracked who was playing at that time and could catch them , taangs again , Computers That Run .

[leedonald54]

I have to work on this laptop , the key board dons' work right , I need a new key board.

[lobomoss]

Gonna get shot for saying this but I've recently bought the new sim city and im absolutely loving it. I've had no issues getting onto the game and have even used my phone to tether to my laptop to play this at work. I'm not a big sim city fan so I can't tell you if 4 is better ( i have bought it but am having problems with it)
I like the fact you have smaller areas to play with and then try to bring them all together. The graphics are good and the game is fun.