How to get Functional Seaports Question

[omnius]

I watched an informative video on Rob's Red Hot Spot YouTube channel and he talked about a BSC Functional Seaport mod at SC4 Devotion. When I clicked on his link to the download at SC4 Devotion it had redirected me to a different BSC Common Dependencies file which I downloaded but haven't yet installed.

According to the video the Maxis seaport in the game sends freight off the map but doesn't increase the demand cap properly which makes it rather useless since using trucks or rail will do both functions.

I sure hope someone can give me some recent info on how to make the in-game seaport work, which the functional seaports mod did.

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

So... why haven't you tried installing the file? FYI, SC4 Devotion was shut down awhile ago and it's been recreated it under a new name, SC4 Evermore, which you can read about here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/24780/discussions/0/6045572169632450425/
I seem to remember it being explained in that thread how many similar mods were merged to help speed up the reuploading of former SC4D content, but could be misremembering.

[omnius]

@richnathaniel9419 - I didn't install that common dependencies file as it didn't look like it had anything to do with seaports. I found out at the Simtropolis website that the old BSC functional seaports file caused RCI problems and was taken down. Now that SC4 Devotion has been archived and the new SC4Evermore site has no forum I've decided not to download or install any BSC content to be on the safe side.

I did find a reasonable substitute at the Simtropolis website. There's a Pegasus 3DK3 Collection download that has multiple ports but also things like marinas in one download so I'm going with that to upgrade from the lame original port offering in the game.

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Okay, well, be sure to update on if it worked or not.

[omnius]

I did more research into the Pegasus 3DK3 Collection mod and it has multiple types of ports. It has 3 "functional" seaports but all they do is take freight offmap but do not affect demand capacity so they're not really functional enough. The other ports are basically eye candy to dress up the waterfront area. I asked a question on the Simtropolis forum and got the answer on how functional the functional seaports are. I'll use the nonfunctional seaports for making my industrial waterfront areas look cool but will use rail to move my freight offmap so demand cap is properly affected.

I've decided to ignore the SC4Evermore site mods since the site has no active forum to ask questions. The Simtropolis site has an active forum with knowledgeable people who help answer newbie questions regarding the mods.

[Ulisse Wolf]

Originally posted by omnius:

I've decided to ignore the SC4Evermore site mods since the site has no active forum to ask questions. The Simtropolis site has an active forum with knowledgeable people who help answer newbie questions regarding the mods.

The SC4Devotion / SC4Evermore forum is in read-only mode because it was no longer registering activity to justify running it, so during the rebuilding period it was decided to move forum activity to the SC4Devotion / SC4Evermore discord server.

[TarkusSC4]

Originally posted by omnius:

I've decided to ignore the SC4Evermore site mods since the site has no active forum to ask questions. The Simtropolis site has an active forum with knowledgeable people who help answer newbie questions regarding the mods.

The folks behind SC4Evermore/late-era SC4 Devotion (myself included) are actually pretty active over at Simtropolis, and some of us are even staff over there now. There's even a link directly to Simtropolis on the top menu bar on every page of SC4Evermore, and Simtropolis has a reciprocal link to SC4Evermore in its footer.

When our webhost decided to dump that last-minute major PHP upgrade on us last year, and it nuked SC4 Devotion as we knew it, there was discussion about what the rebuild would look like, and about the role of SC4D and its content some 20 years after the game's release.

SC4D's forums pretty much fell off the map in terms of activity, especially after the extended downtime during the ownership crisis in 2019. Prior to the closure, at about this time last year, we were averaging less than one post per day. Simply put, it was very clear at the time that there wasn't room for two active traditional forums any more. Everyone was perfectly happy posting to ST, or Reddit, or using our growing Discord server, and their value had become primarily historic and static in nature. Accordingly, we placed them into a locked, archival state, such that we wouldn't have to be constantly fending off spambots on an otherwise inactive forum. (I'll note, the decision to lock it down isn't necessarily permanent, but it's unlikely to change unless there's overwhelming interest in their return.)

We did, however, feel there was still a need for another download site, focused on a radical re-imagining of how SC4 mod files were packaged, and that's why SC4Evermore exists.

-Tarkus

[omnius]

@Tarkus - Thanks for your reply regarding SC4Evermore but for now I'll stick with Simtropolis mods since there is an active forum to support it's mods. Right now I'm learning this game as a new one so I'm going to keep things simple. I wish you the best at SC4Evermore and hope interest in an active forum becomes feasible.

[omnius]

@Ulisse Wolf, - You seem to be everywhere. I don't do Discord and never again will so that isn't an option for me. I like the Simtropolis site and will limit my mod search to your mods for now. I might change my mind in the future to look at SC4Evermore but for now I think Simtropolis will do.

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Originally posted by omnius:

Originally posted by TarkusSC4:

The folks behind SC4Evermore/late-era SC4 Devotion (myself included) are actually pretty active over at Simtropolis, and some of us are even staff over there now. There's even a link directly to Simtropolis on the top menu bar on every page of SC4Evermore, and Simtropolis has a reciprocal link to SC4Evermore in its footer.

@Tarkus - Thanks for your reply regarding SC4Evermore but for now I'll stick with Simtropolis mods since there is an active forum to support it's mods. Right now I'm learning this game as a new one so I'm going to keep things simple. I wish you the best at SC4Evermore and hope interest in an active forum becomes feasible.

Sus levels continue to rise with this guy! First thing Tarkus says is us SC4E guys are active on ST meaning you can ask questions there about SC4E stuff, get answers by SC4E people as if it is the SC4E forum since outside of discord, it's the closest thing to an official SC4E forum, yet out suspect still says no SC4E just because no forum, wow, like he didn't even read...

Also, please correct me if I misinterpreted your words Tarkus.