Commute times more annoying than anything ever

[Joe21 ★★★]

I've come across some really big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in games before, but commute timing in this game is a complete nightmare that is probably worse than any dark souls boss. It seems every time I build houses now, everyone goes jobless despite there being a subway, a bus stop and a dozen of commercial offices available for these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. A lot of my houses are going abandoned fast, how can I fix this?

Not only that but a lot of my commercial offices are also becoming abandoned due to low customers and low demand even though I've built schools, parks and houses near them

[Bfloo]

For the commercial zones add plazas, not parks.

[MGB]

Not to mention, CS buildings thrive when placed on busy roads. If not, they won't get any customers, which is linked internally to traffic volumes.

By design the Commute Simulator is pretty dumb and causes many problems. If you don't already have it, install the NAM, which includes a much optimised simulator. Note you don't have to install the entire NAM, a basic install is pretty much a patch for the base game.

Lastly, consider if your sims really do have everything they need? The game is often more complex than first seems. For example, if you've an office with only R$ sims working at it, who's running the place? Likewise, if you have only R$$$ sims, who's doing the actual work? For any business to thrive in SC4, it requires a mix of wealths to function. Important because just one missing part may be sufficient to cause abandonment. As cities mature, you can get into a spiral of problems based on the distribution of different wealth workers.

Also, just because there are jobs near sims, doesn't mean those jobs are right for those sims. If sims aren't working nearby their homes, it suggests they need to look further to find a suitable job for their wealth/education level.

[DennyFrontier]

You need to download the Network Addon Mod. It restructures the commute time and distance ( to an extent) and adds lots of cool road and highway options. Might help you

[Bfloo]

You also might need to bump up the education level, or sneak in some industrial zones near by.

[Nat31er]

Originally posted by DennyFrontier:

You need to download the Network Addon Mod. It restructures the commute time and distance ( to an extent) and adds lots of cool road and highway options. Might help you

But modding in this game is absolutely terrible. It requires you to be an elite wizard casting spells on your pc. Want to install a plugin? Nah, you will have to do 20 other things for it to work.

How is one supposed to deal with that?

[KristopherVector]

Originally posted by Nat31er:

Originally posted by DennyFrontier:

You need to download the Network Addon Mod. It restructures the commute time and distance ( to an extent) and adds lots of cool road and highway options. Might help you

But modding in this game is absolutely terrible. It requires you to be an elite wizard casting spells on your pc. Want to install a plugin? Nah, you will have to do 20 other things for it to work.

How is one supposed to deal with that?

It's really not that complicated. If you can put together a simple 4 legged ikea bedside table you can install the network addon mod. It has instructions on what to do.

[WhatWillTheNextDowndateBring?]

Originally posted by Nat31er:

Originally posted by DennyFrontier:

You need to download the Network Addon Mod. It restructures the commute time and distance ( to an extent) and adds lots of cool road and highway options. Might help you

But modding in this game is absolutely terrible. It requires you to be an elite wizard casting spells on your pc. Want to install a plugin? Nah, you will have to do 20 other things for it to work.

How is one supposed to deal with that?

Is that your way of venting for being removed as a moderator on the necromancy subreddit?!

[TarkusSC4]

The aforementioned startup guide for the Network Addon Mod (NAM) is here[www.sc4nam.com], and recently got a really nice rewrite by a new member of our team, Apothocary (who does this sort of thing for a living).

With regards to stuff beyond the NAM . . . that is admittedly a mess, but after SC4 Devotion got nuked last month, when our webhost decided to spring a last-minute forced major PHP upgrade on us and broke the entire site, I decided to use my executive privileges/custodial authority as the site's owner. I took over 150 of the BSC Team's dependency files (which are among the most-commonly used, and oft-complained-about) and put them into a single package with a NAM-style installer. The result, the SC4D LEX Legacy BSC Common Dependencies Pack, is now available on the temporary frontpage at the site--here is a link[www.sc4devotion.com]. (We'll be unveiling a more organized solution to making the site's files available soon.)

And as I mentioned in one of the other threads, if this is about SimCity 4 not having a Steam Workshop . . . that's not the SC4 modding community's fault. In order for a game to have a Workshop section added, the developer or publisher has to give Valve/Steam the okay, and EA (both developer and publisher in this case, since Maxis is a full subsidiary) hasn't done that, and based on what I know of the situation, I'd say it's highly unlikely they will. If they were to do it, however, we (the NAM Team) would certainly find a way to get the NAM onto it.

-Tarkus

[Tsubame ⭐]

Originally posted by Nat31er:

Originally posted by DennyFrontier:

You need to download the Network Addon Mod. It restructures the commute time and distance ( to an extent) and adds lots of cool road and highway options. Might help you

But modding in this game is absolutely terrible. It requires you to be an elite wizard casting spells on your pc. Want to install a plugin? Nah, you will have to do 20 other things for it to work.

How is one supposed to deal with that?

Is not that hard, just manual download and install. But welcome to 2000s modding.

[TheKillerChicken]

Originally posted by TarkusSC4:

The aforementioned startup guide for the Network Addon Mod (NAM) is here[www.sc4nam.com], and recently got a really nice rewrite by a new member of our team, Apothocary (who does this sort of thing for a living).

With regards to stuff beyond the NAM . . . that is admittedly a mess, but after SC4 Devotion got nuked last month, when our webhost decided to spring a last-minute forced major PHP upgrade on us and broke the entire site, I decided to use my executive privileges/custodial authority as the site's owner. I took over 150 of the BSC Team's dependency files (which are among the most-commonly used, and oft-complained-about) and put them into a single package with a NAM-style installer. The result, the SC4D LEX Legacy BSC Common Dependencies Pack, is now available on the temporary frontpage at the site--here is a link[www.sc4devotion.com]. (We'll be unveiling a more organized solution to making the site's files available soon.)

And as I mentioned in one of the other threads, if this is about SimCity 4 not having a Steam Workshop . . . that's not the SC4 modding community's fault. In order for a game to have a Workshop section added, the developer or publisher has to give Valve/Steam the okay, and EA (both developer and publisher in this case, since Maxis is a full subsidiary) hasn't done that, and based on what I know of the situation, I'd say it's highly unlikely they will. If they were to do it, however, we (the NAM Team) would certainly find a way to get the NAM onto it.

-Tarkus

SC4Devotion got nuked? how and why? Nevermind, I just read up on the site, that is freaking brutal...