Everyone complaining... maybe your PC can't run it?

[Rei]

I have a 4060 ti 16 gb and the game runs fine at max settings, getting around 110 FPS.

[Rei]

Originally posted by BrainIsPain:

People are angry because this technology is very new, so obviously you're gonna need to buy a NASA supercomputer to run it. I can understand their frustration, but come on... It's not gonna run at all its 200 fps glory with a 1090.

Also, I've seen tons complaining that it doesn't run well on a 30 series card, but that's because it's the minimum requirement graphics card for this game, so it's not gonna run well, is it? Every time I see someone complain, there's always something wrong with their setup, I just know it. HL2 didn't perform well on the average pc in 2004, but look at it now. We'll just have to be patient for this technology to get better.

Plus, people ranting about having to buy new cards to run this tech is stupid, because of course they will. Games have been gradually improving their graphics for decades, so people always had to switch to a better pc or console. This isn't anything new.

Also, do people not realise that they can just edit the graphics in the settings? I tried it with my 3090, and guess what? The game doesn't run at 20 fps anymore!

What's even worse is the amount of 'reviews' and 'criticism' this game is getting because of peoples' anger, just like with Portal RTX. Hopefully in a couple of years, when people switch to new PCs, everything will be much better.

Exactly, I remember when my most previous PC started having issues running newer games... and what did I do? I upgraded, and boom suddenly no more performance issues. And when I was having the performance issues on my previous PC, I understood why and instead of complaining, I saved and invested into a stronger and newer computer. I understood my great at the time hardware was no longer keeping up with today's games and did my best to make it through with the equipment I had.

[Shibby]

Or it could be Nvidia being lazy with their drivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

[Rei]

Originally posted by Shibby:

Or it could be Nvidia being lazy with their drivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

How so? I'm having no issues.

[Shibby]

Originally posted by Rei:

Originally posted by Shibby:

Or it could be Nvidia being lazy with their drivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

How so? I'm having no issues.

This is why Nvidia drivers are now hot trash and will randomly not work on systems they should work on. That is the entire point of the video. Nvidia is starting to get like AMD was with their drivers. They are clearly ignoring the gaming sector for AI and the products are suffering for it. It wouldn't be an issue if they didn't claim to be the "best" and charge the most but the software/drivers is lacking. I have had games just randomly freeze because I turned on FG. That's amateur hour stuff.

[Cosmic Nebula]

Originally posted by Rei:

I have a 4060 ti 16 gb and the game runs fine at max settings, getting around 110 FPS.

There is a bit to that. Odds are framegen is being used, and while framegen on its own is a decent tech, it does introduce some issues. Upscaling is also likely being used to a significant degree. If I had to guess, it's on auto or performance upscaling. Regardless, it is true that people complain too much. I personally have an RTX 2080ti as my best RTX GPU and I don't complain that this runs pretty poorly on it, regardless 60fps with some tweaking to the settings is more than possible with DLSS balanced upscaling at 1080p. There is an entire list of options to change for a reason lol.

[maginnovision]

Let's be honest here. Gamers Nexus only conclusion is some people are having problems, "hundreds of people". They say this is worse than any problem AMD ever had.

Its objectively not true unless they fail to fix it and we see it become a widespread issue for quite a while. If we want to use their video for a factual claim then you require multiple monitors, gsync and frame-gen, and certain games, possibly with displays that have different refresh rates. Or maybe none of those things matter because reports are actually pretty random.

You know what I noticed though? I use gsync, I have two monitors with different specs and I play some of the problematic games. I use the latest drivers though and I'm not having these issues. One thing I don't do is use frame-gen which is one of the things that may or may not matter. The other difference is I'm using an Intel CPU, not AMD. No problems here yet.

My actual conclusion from the video is... They couldn't find anything concrete and they're guessing that maybe something they thought of could help. Pretty odd video and if they believe what they said they shouldn't even review Nvidia cards anymore because they don't care and they aren't REALLY in the consumer GPU market anymore. The hyperbolic nature of the channel is something I've never cared for.

I am hopeful that Nvidia will get this fixed sooner than later. For those affected it'd be pretty annoying to need to use an old driver. I actually suspect it might be an issue with flip metering in the driver but I guess we'll find out at some point.

[Jim]

What we are seeing is the equivalent of people not being able to play PS5 games on their PS3 and stomping their feet with steam coming out of their ears about it lol

[Shibby]

Originally posted by maginnovision:

Let's be honest here. Gamers Nexus only conclusion is some people are having problems, "hundreds of people". They say this is worse than any problem AMD ever had.

Its objectively not true unless they fail to fix it and we see it become a widespread issue for quite a while. If we want to use their video for a factual claim then you require multiple monitors, gsync and frame-gen, and certain games, possibly with displays that have different refresh rates. Or maybe none of those things matter because reports are actually pretty random.

You know what I noticed though? I use gsync, I have two monitors with different specs and I play some of the problematic games. I use the latest drivers though and I'm not having these issues. One thing I don't do is use frame-gen which is one of the things that may or may not matter. The other difference is I'm using an Intel CPU, not AMD. No problems here yet.

My actual conclusion from the video is... They couldn't find anything concrete and they're guessing that maybe something they thought of could help. Pretty odd video and if they believe what they said they shouldn't even review Nvidia cards anymore because they don't care and they aren't REALLY in the consumer GPU market anymore. The hyperbolic nature of the channel is something I've never cared for.

I am hopeful that Nvidia will get this fixed sooner than later. For those affected it'd be pretty annoying to need to use an old driver. I actually suspect it might be an issue with flip metering in the driver but I guess we'll find out at some point.

Just because the airbag in your car hasn't failed yet doesn't mean there isn't a problem with the airbags in the recall. The part that should sort of sort make you think is that maybe it isn't the games that are the problem at launch and it's the drivers and has been for a while now. I had the issue of FG crashing as soon as I toggle it on in this game and in Spider-Man 2. I can play other games for hours at a time and I can run local AI sessions with zero issues on my 4090 so it's not my hardware and that leaves only the Nvidia drivers as having issues. This game and Spider-Man 2 both work fine for enabling FG now but I was blaming the game and not the drivers.

One of the main selling points of Nvidia is the great driver/software support they had for so many years. If that starts to fall off then we are in trouble.

[maginnovision]

Originally posted by Shibby:

Originally posted by maginnovision:

Let's be honest here. Gamers Nexus only conclusion is some people are having problems, "hundreds of people". They say this is worse than any problem AMD ever had.

Its objectively not true unless they fail to fix it and we see it become a widespread issue for quite a while. If we want to use their video for a factual claim then you require multiple monitors, gsync and frame-gen, and certain games, possibly with displays that have different refresh rates. Or maybe none of those things matter because reports are actually pretty random.

You know what I noticed though? I use gsync, I have two monitors with different specs and I play some of the problematic games. I use the latest drivers though and I'm not having these issues. One thing I don't do is use frame-gen which is one of the things that may or may not matter. The other difference is I'm using an Intel CPU, not AMD. No problems here yet.

My actual conclusion from the video is... They couldn't find anything concrete and they're guessing that maybe something they thought of could help. Pretty odd video and if they believe what they said they shouldn't even review Nvidia cards anymore because they don't care and they aren't REALLY in the consumer GPU market anymore. The hyperbolic nature of the channel is something I've never cared for.

I am hopeful that Nvidia will get this fixed sooner than later. For those affected it'd be pretty annoying to need to use an old driver. I actually suspect it might be an issue with flip metering in the driver but I guess we'll find out at some point.

Just because the airbag in your car hasn't failed yet doesn't mean there isn't a problem with the airbags in the recall. The part that should sort of sort make you think is that maybe it isn't the games that are the problem at launch and it's the drivers and has been for a while now. I had the issue of FG crashing as soon as I toggle it on in this game and in Spider-Man 2. I can play other games for hours at a time and I can run local AI sessions with zero issues on my 4090 so it's not my hardware and that leaves only the Nvidia drivers as having issues. This game and Spider-Man 2 both work fine for enabling FG now but I was blaming the game and not the drivers.

One of the main selling points of Nvidia is the great driver/software support they had for so many years. If that starts to fall off then we are in trouble.

I never claimed anything so I don't understand your seatbelt analogy.

EDIT: AIRBAG. Sorry too many seatbelt recalls I've done.

There is no equivalent of a recall happening either, majority of people don't seem to be having issues but even that is impossible to tell. The only thing I'm mentioning is that despite meeting many of the "red flags" I'm still not having issues. My 4090(same club) temps stay under 50C, runs over 3GHz and I haven't had any crashes, or resetting despite playing more games than normal(by a huge margin). So whatever the issue is it isn't as simple as drivers are broken, it's some combination of factors that is causing an issue.

I'm not even blaming the games. It could very likely be a driver issue totally isolated from all other bits of the PC. Mostly all I'm saying is it was a pointless video because they don't know anything more than what's publicly available and their fixes are random things. None of it points to what's actually happening here or real fixes. Their video is literally the equivalent of any random guy on Reddit.

If anything most of the people with these issues have AMD CPUs. Doesn't mean it's an AMD issue either. We don't know what the cause of issues is. You don't even know if it's the cause of your crashes you're just assuming. It's similar to when people were blaming Nvidia for their Intel crashes. Nobody had the full story for some time.

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by Shibby:

Originally posted by Rei:

How so? I'm having no issues.

This is why Nvidia drivers are now hot trash and will randomly not work on systems they should work on. That is the entire point of the video. Nvidia is starting to get like AMD was with their drivers. They are clearly ignoring the gaming sector for AI and the products are suffering for it. It wouldn't be an issue if they didn't claim to be the "best" and charge the most but the software/drivers is lacking. I have had games just randomly freeze because I turned on FG. That's amateur hour stuff.

They had a couple issues with their last few but they got it together....

I've had 0 issues personally...not really gonna lie to prove your point neither is the person you're quoting...if there are no issues that is not why lol

[powerwisdom]

Originally posted by Rei:

I have a 4060 ti 16 gb and the game runs fine at max settings, getting around 110 FPS.

what res are you running at? maxing this out on a rtx 3090 and i9 12900k at 3840x1600. i get like 40fps max lol

[Codester]

I'm using an rtx 4070 TI Super and at 3k graphics I get 165 Fps. Game runs flawlessly for me.

[Rei]

Originally posted by Codester:

I'm using an rtx 4070 TI Super and at 3k graphics I get 165 Fps. Game runs flawlessly for me.

It's almost like you have a computer that has the upgraded hardware to run the upgraded and enhanced graphics!

[dprog1995]

How about those 3D porn games on steam that run terribly even on RTX 4060 ti?

Maybe you need to upgrade your pc to play them properly.

See that's the main issue. Instead of optimizing the games, developers just tell us "Upgrade your PCs !"

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by dprog1995:

How about those 3D porn games on steam that run terribly even on RTX 4060 ti?

Maybe you need to upgrade your pc to play them properly.

See that's the main issue. Instead of optimizing the games, developers just tell us "Upgrade your PCs !"

Those pron games path traced?

Lets get real here