Everyone keeps saying "the anti woke" crowd

[Deej]

Am I missing something, I didn't think this game was woke, so why do yall keep perpetuating this?

From my understanding the timeline is,

1. Someone makes art of a character and gives them a larger chest.

2. Random people start harassing said Artist for this.

3. Developer tweets out to not harass anyone or you are not welcome in the community.

4. Asmond sees this drama, and decides to check out game.

5. He gave it praise AND postive words, said nothing negative about the game itself, even telling his viewers to buy it.

6. Mentally handicapped and insecure composer gets anal hurt that Asmond is praising the game, and doesn't want him or his viewers playing the game. So much so telling people to self delete

7. Grummz is tagged in the drama, and focuses solely on the rouge dev, and still praises said game.

Not sure, how this has anything to do with anti woke culture. Considering asmond is pro lgb in every way. It really boils down to the composer causing drama over nothing, then making him, the company and game look bad.

[BlackWater]

Not sure, I'm so far in, no idea if its halfway or 1/3 or 9/10's. I've seen no wokism crap so far. What I have seen is a game that A, flipping works - I think the reason all these "dumb-down" graphics wise games are dropping en-mass is the simple fact a wall has been reached. They simply can't get any more graphics out of our current tech, and frankly, simple graphics with fun game play and/or an interesting story trounce latest graphics with stutter and hitch bs no matter how powerful your pc is.

B the story is interesting so far.

[Kot Rajmund]

oh, hi there, so the 2031923918293 threads on the same subject were not enough for you (even though you posted in several of them), you had to make your own?

So much for not causing drama over nothing.

[Deej]

Messaggio originale di Kot Rajmund:

oh, hi there, so the 2031923918293 threads on the same subject were not enough for you (even though you posted in several of them), you had to make your own?

So much for not causing drama over nothing.

I didn't cause the drama, I just asked a question how this has anything to do with anti woke crowds

Absolute W reading comprehension though

[Grimno]

Messaggio originale di Kot Rajmund:

oh, hi there, so the 2031923918293 threads on the same subject were not enough for you (even though you posted in several of them), you had to make your own?

So much for not causing drama over nothing.

He came from Wrong Organs twitter account where they're mad they cant keep harassing the dev so now they're thtowing a tantrum anywhere they can.

This guy in particular is upsetti spaghetti over some gifs of Grummz's avatar getting bonked with hammers.
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[Deej]

Messaggio originale di Grimno:

Messaggio originale di Kot Rajmund:

oh, hi there, so the 2031923918293 threads on the same subject were not enough for you (even though you posted in several of them), you had to make your own?

So much for not causing drama over nothing.

He came from Wrong Organs twitter account where they're mad they cant keep harassing the dev so now they're thtowing a tantrum anywhere they can.

This guy in particular is upsetti spaghetti over some gifs of Grummz's avatar getting bonked with hammers.
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It's not someone getting bonked with hammers. You posted a gif of someone else getting axed and executed. That is quite literally a call to violence. I don't agree with you, but I'd never do something like that.

It really shows your true character.

[Grimno]

Messaggio originale di Deej:

Messaggio originale di Grimno:

He came from Wrong Organs twitter account where they're mad they cant keep harassing the dev so now they're thtowing a tantrum anywhere they can.

This guy in particular is upsetti spaghetti over some gifs of Grummz's avatar getting bonked with hammers.
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It's not someone getting bonked with hammers. You posted a gif of someone else getting axed and executed. That is quite literally a call to violence. I don't agree with you, but I'd never do something like that.

It really shows your true character.

It was a gif of a fictional character getting beat up by another fictional character.

Wanna watch some Tom and Jerry?

[Crimson Dawn]

Messaggio originale di Kot Rajmund:

oh, hi there, so the 2031923918293 threads on the same subject were not enough for you (even though you posted in several of them), you had to make your own?

So much for not causing drama over nothing.

Nobody cares about who you think should be censored. People have a right to talk about this. Op is stating facts. Devs attacking millions of players without justification is becoming way too common lately.

[VulpineMachine]

Messaggio originale di Grimno:

....where they're mad they cant keep harassing the dev...

Messaggio originale di Grimno:

It was a gif of a fictional character getting beat up by another fictional character.
Wanna watch some Tom and Jerry?

Typical modern "enlightened" OP here. "It's wrong when their team does it, but it's fine when my team does it!"

Yeah, people are getting tired of this.

[BlackHawk]

Maliciously distorting the narrative to manipulative your viewpoint in people's favour shouldn't be necessary if you sincerely believe your take is correct.

The first step claims that people criticised the artist for merely drawing a woman with big boobs, which did not happen. The artist sexualized a fictional SA victim by drawing her in very, very skimpy clothes and a blushing pose, which people then proceeded to criticise him for. The artist then claimed he was receiving death threats, which the devs of Mouthwashing condemned. Asmongold responded to the drama and defended the artist. When he talked about playing the game, the sound composer made a tweet exclaiming, without any insults or attacks towards asmongold, how he felt sick over the idea of having to deal with the wave of attention and polarising views from Asmon and his community because they have fundamentally different morals and values. Asmongold had an absolute meltdown, the composer then got in a side-beef with Grummz who was trying to defend asmongold, and Asmon's community has since berated, harrased and indeed sent death threats to the composer and have been pushing this crusade through various threads.

It's entirely overblown drama because one of the devs said he didn't like some people's favourite streamer, and people have changed the story to their fitting in ten different ways ever since to justify their extremely emotional reaction to hearing a different opinion.

[Grimno]

Messaggio originale di VulpineMachine:

Messaggio originale di Grimno:

....where they're mad they cant keep harassing the dev...

Messaggio originale di Grimno:

It was a gif of a fictional character getting beat up by another fictional character.
Wanna watch some Tom and Jerry?

Typical modern "enlightened" OP here. "It's wrong when their team does it, but it's fine when my team does it!"

Yeah, people are getting tired of this.

Hypocrisy is their bread and butter.

People have grown wise to it this year and more and more people are speaking up against it

[UltimateTobi]

Messaggio originale di BlackHawk:

Maliciously distorting the narrative to manipulative your viewpoint in people's favour shouldn't be necessary if you sincerely believe your take is correct.

The first step did not happen. The artist sexualized a fictional SA victim by drawing her in very, very skimpy clothes and a blushing pose, which people then proceeded to criticise him for. The artist then claimed he was receiving death threats, which the devs of Mouthwashing condemned. Asmongold responded to the drama and defended the artist. Nothing more happened until he decided to play the game, at which point the sound composer politely exclaimed how he wished he weren't associated with Asmon and his community because they have fundamentally different morals and values. Asmongold had an absolute meltdown and his community has since berated and harrased both the composer, the devs and this discussion thread. It's entirely overblown drama because one of the devs said he didn't like some people's favourite streamer, and people have changed the story to their fitting in ten different ways ever since to justify their extremely emotional reaction to hearing a different opinion.

You are incredibly bad faith.
You differently phrased step one, OP did just express it in more neutral terms.

"at which point the sound composer politely exclaimed how he wished he weren't associated with Asmon and his community" This is flat out wrong. There was nothing "polite" about what the composer said or how he said it. Neither to/about Asmongold, nor to Grummz.

[BlackHawk]

Messaggio originale di UltimateTobi:

Messaggio originale di BlackHawk:

Maliciously distorting the narrative to manipulative your viewpoint in people's favour shouldn't be necessary if you sincerely believe your take is correct.

The first step did not happen. The artist sexualized a fictional SA victim by drawing her in very, very skimpy clothes and a blushing pose, which people then proceeded to criticise him for. The artist then claimed he was receiving death threats, which the devs of Mouthwashing condemned. Asmongold responded to the drama and defended the artist. Nothing more happened until he decided to play the game, at which point the sound composer politely exclaimed how he wished he weren't associated with Asmon and his community because they have fundamentally different morals and values. Asmongold had an absolute meltdown and his community has since berated and harrased both the composer, the devs and this discussion thread. It's entirely overblown drama because one of the devs said he didn't like some people's favourite streamer, and people have changed the story to their fitting in ten different ways ever since to justify their extremely emotional reaction to hearing a different opinion.

You are incredibly bad faith.
You differently phrased step one, OP did just express it in more neutral terms.

"at which point the sound composer politely exclaimed how he wished he weren't associated with Asmon and his community" This is flat out wrong. There was nothing "polite" about what the composer said or how he said it. Neither to/about Asmongold, nor to Grummz.

"Criticising someone for sexualizing an SA character" is VERY different to "criticising someone for drawing a woman with big boobs." For someone accusing me of being bad faith, this is bad faith. This isn't a turn of phrase, these are two very different things, and I have a hard time believing that you aren't aware of that.

You most certainly did not read the tweet he originally sent to Asmon if you thought it was so rude and malicious. He never insulted or even accused asmongold of anything, he very matter-of-fact stated his extreme discomfort over the "anti-woke" crowd, and his tweets essentially come down to "my values are completely opposite to Asmongold and I do not want to be associated with him and deal with his fanbase through a game my name is attached to." It was brutally honest. but it wasn't inulting, nor an attack. Asmongold could not have reacted to something so plain with more offense than he did. He took it to a level far too personal, and so has his community. People like you have become so involved online that you no longer recognise when something is no longer your business and does not affect you or anyone else in any way, so you distort the narrative to make it feel like there's a victim. There is none. This is petty and childish.

[UltimateTobi]

Messaggio originale di BlackHawk:

Messaggio originale di UltimateTobi:

You are incredibly bad faith.
You differently phrased step one, OP did just express it in more neutral terms.

"at which point the sound composer politely exclaimed how he wished he weren't associated with Asmon and his community" This is flat out wrong. There was nothing "polite" about what the composer said or how he said it. Neither to/about Asmongold, nor to Grummz.

"Criticising someone for sexualizing an SA character" is VERY different to "criticising someone for drawing a woman with big boobs." For someone accusing me of being bad faith, this is bad faith. This isn't a turn of phrase, these are two very different things, and I have a hard time believing that you aren't aware of that.

You most certainly did not read the tweet if you thought it was anything but polite. He never insulted or even accused asmongold of anything, he very matter-of-fact stated "My values are completely against yours, Asmongold. I do not want to be associated with you through the game I created." It was short, it was honest, and it was polite. Asmongold could not have reacted to something so tame with more offense than he did. He took it to a level far too personal, and so has his community.

To most of you, giving women a bigger chest is already sexualizing, so what does it matter how he phrases it? It happened, an artist spiced the character up. Whether you wanna say it's sexualizing or not, it doesn't matter. The artist got harassed for his art either way, which the dev team condemned.
(Besides, Sexualization isn't negative; we are sexual creatures after all.)
Also, are you implying that harassment (and death threats, if they occured), are justified, if the artist "sexualized" a fictional character?

And as for his politeness: what is this then?

https://x.com/Grummz/status/1863289511125590280 (see the images. tried to post them directly, but didn't work.)

That is anything but polite; to both Asmongold and Grummz.

[Massapan]

Messaggio originale di BlackHawk:

Maliciously distorting the narrative to manipulative your viewpoint in people's favour shouldn't be necessary if you sincerely believe your take is correct.

The first step did not happen. The artist sexualized a fictional SA victim by drawing her in very, very skimpy clothes and a blushing pose, which people then proceeded to criticise him for. The artist then claimed he was receiving death threats, which the devs of Mouthwashing condemned. Asmongold responded to the drama and defended the artist. Nothing more happened until he decided to play the game, at which point the sound composer politely exclaimed how he wished he weren't associated with Asmon and his community because they have fundamentally different morals and values. Asmongold had an absolute meltdown and his community has since berated, harrased and indeed sent death threats to both the composer, the devs and have been pushing this crusade through various threads.

It's entirely overblown drama because one of the devs said he didn't like some people's favourite streamer, and people have changed the story to their fitting in ten different ways ever since to justify their extremely emotional reaction to hearing a different opinion.

lol
the co-founder stated "The anti-woke crowd has found the game and I feel sick to my fing stomach. Being on twitter is going to be unbelievably painful from now on that idk if I can be active on here. I don't have the energy for this", replying to a screenshot of Asmongold defending the artist, before even playing the game, The co-founder then went to wrongfully label Asmongold and claim to be enemies due to the mislabel he himself placed on Asmongold and those he assumed to be of the same crowd, also before asmon even played the game.

[Siight]

Saw this as well, actually thought it looked interesting, than heard that the composer had a disastrous take, and more than that, the composer lists himself as a co-founder of wrong-organ.

So point 6 of yours is correct, except missing that it was a co-founder of this dev studio spewing the bad take. And honestly I think most of us are just tired of people pretending their about inclusion, while trying to exclude a large portion of the population.

From what I can tell this game doesn't really involve anything of the sort...it's just a good game...but the co-founder kind of showed his true intentions, and is trying to play victim, when they were the ones saying they don't want certain people to play their game.

I mean it's just so tiring.