Cursed Glade - Bag of Holding

[Minus]

Cursed Glade prevents you using magic objects which I understand but it seems this also applies to passive items like the Bag of Holding.

If you have a BoH and enter the Glade with items inside it, it forces you to drop items until you hit your Limit minus the 8 from the bag of holding.

I'm not sure if this really makes sense or if anything then the flavour text at the glade needs reworking so that it clearly informs users that it affects ALL magic objects and not just ones that affect your Strength or Craft or magic that is actively used.

[Artaterxes]

The glade doesn't have any flavor text... It says "...nor may you use Magic Objects or cast Spells." Seems to be working right!

[Minus]

Originally posted by Artaterxes:

The glade doesn't have any flavor text... It says "...nor may you use Magic Objects or cast Spells." Seems to be working right!

That is what I was referring to. And I stand by the fact that its still obscure in its term of "use". You don't actively use magic bags, thus it should read as I said that ALL magic objects are affected and not just wording on usage of.

[PPK_2.0]

See Magic Object: ie Fate sword can't be used but poision dagger can be. In this case magic object being used is magic bag which can no longer be used ie items must be removed from it since the magic that was being used to hold them is no longer working. If it was back pack of largeness ie object then it wouldn't be effected.

[ToothlessNightFury]

"When a character implements the ability of a card’s text box, he is considered to be using the card. Using cards is optional, and a character may always choose when to use a card he has. For example, the Cross allows a character to automatically destroy Spirits without resorting to psychic combat. The character may choose not to use the Cross and may attack a given Spirit instead."

If you're storing Objects in the Bag of Holding, you are implementing the ability of the Bag and are therefore using it. This means that the Bag of Holding does not work in the Cursed Glade!

[Minus]

Yes, I'm not disputing that the bag should or should not work in the glade. I am stating that the current text is ambiguous and generally leads the reader to believe it refers only to Activated magic objects or those that affect Strength / Magic gains and could do with clarifying that it affects ALL magic objects, passive or active and this is not just me, the three others in my match were just as befuddled when this occurred.

Originally posted by talismanamsilat:

"When a character implements the ability of a card’s text box, he is considered to be using the card. Using cards is optional, and a character may always choose when to use a card he has. For example, the Cross allows a character to automatically destroy Spirits without resorting to psychic

Is this stated anywhere in the actual game or is this an excerpt from online written rules or the boardgame version? I've yet to see anything this clear in the digital version. Just because its known in the physical to prior players does not mean assumption should be made that people new to T:DE will know this, especially if its not clearly mentioned.

TLDR; If a user has to seek external information for clarification of a tile, object or mechanic, then in game information needs to be clearer.

This will only get worse as more and more expansion packs are added and people get into talisman DE at later stages as there is more content for them to learn.

This will also help cut down on repeated queries here on the forums for similar issues.

[Sore]

I also just had this problem. It makes sense but the wording on the glade is bad. It should state that it disables all objects.

[Neil 666]

I just had a weird problem with the Bag of Carrying on the Cursed Glade, I landed on the Glade so the Bag was useless there.
I ditched some of my less essential items so I could keep the 4 items that were in the Bag, but the number on the Bag stayed on 4 even though it was empty (until I dropped it to pick up a Talisman, it then reset to 0)
The items that were originally in the Bag still kept the icon showing that they're concealed even after I ditched the Bag (these icons disappear from the items when they are ditched)
When I was defeated by the Dark Cultist she couldn't take any of these items (with the stuck icons on, I wasn't even carrying the Bag at this time)
I'm also carrying the Concealed Pouch but the stuck icons still stay even when the Pouch is empty (if you put these items in the Pouch then take them out the icon disappears, when the icons have gone they can be taken when you've been defeated)

Also the icons for both of the bags and the pouch have the exactly the same icon, this can get very confusing if your carrying more than one of them.

[Baka Red]

Cursed Glade also seems to his Follower based object carrying limit. My Horse and Cart was suddenly useless and I lost lots of good items to something, that is "only" supposed to affect "Strength and Craft derived from Objects and Magic Objects." Follower is neither Object nor Magic Object. Thus yet another bug many years after the game was published. That but in practice made me lose the game. Oh well. Maybe I will play again in a year or two.

[vidal22]

You must have been using the Cataclysm board. It is different, it states that followers also can not be used on this space.