86% rating?!? ON RELEASE?!?!

[Bacon Overlord®]

Well, that's refreshing. Must actually be a decent game. Almost every AAA game this last year released to 60-70% mixed ratings.

Maybe 2025 will be different.

[Deadly Dan]

Where are you looking? I see 81% positive, just was 82% so it'S dropping fast. And the people are superfans who payed full price to play it on release.

[archonsod]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

What you need to look at is how many is playing.
This game peaked at 10k ish.. lower than most small indie games and other AA titles.

Well yes, it's still in advanced access. Though that is half of Outer World's all time peak.

There are only 600 reviews on steam in games it should compare with there are 30k atleast and often above 100k.

What games are you comparing it to precisely? I mean just looking at The Outer Worlds, because y'know it's Obsidian's last first person RPG-ish game, five years after release and two expansions later it has ... 17K reviews. Or we could look at Pillars of Eternity, given it's part of the same franchise, almost a decade after release is sitting pretty on 15K reviews. Or Deadfire, which has 10K reviews. Or let's just look at Obsidian's last released game Pentiment, which is almost at 7K reviews.
I'm not entirely sure where you're getting the 30K to 100K reviews from. To compare to similar AA titles as you put it, Like a Dragon (the original, not Infinite Wealth) only has 17K reviews. Sega hailed it as the fastest selling LaD/Yakuza game at the time, it having achieved 1 million sales in it's launch week. Or we could check Atlus' Persona 3 Reloaded, a remake of a popular series and on it's release last year it became Atlus' fastest selling title (again, hitting a million in the first week) - oh look, 19K reviews. Or hey, let's restrict it to successful titles from Western studios known primarily for their RPG's like Obsidian - Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous - 20K reviews.

[GuNNuP]

Originally posted by katarack21:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Atleast 80k concurrent players, but to match the budget 150k and then still have over 80% positive review rating

You seriously overestimate the requirements of matching the budget. The Outer Worlds didn't do anywhere near those numbers, but was a financial and commercial success.

obsidian learned how to manage money, therefore that's why they are able to have 3 projects running in tandem. They even lowerd the scope of the game.

[katarack21]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by Cnio:

The game didn't even release yet. Those numbers are only the ones who paid 90 bucks for early access...

This game released yesterday.
If you buy the game now, you will get full access to the full content.

It is true, that there is a budget version to buy, that gives you later access to the same full game.

You keep saying this, and it keeps not being true. Game's full release is on Tuesday. Until then, it's only advanced access--if you want to phrase as such, a *partial* release.

[SkidaRu]

Same with Starfield & Veilguard - The initial fan hype, excitement soon died and reality set in. All the 1 - 3 hours knee jerk reviews are hilarious.

Originally posted by Bacon Overlord®:

Well, that's refreshing. Must actually be a decent game. Almost every AAA game this last year released to 60-70% mixed ratings.

Maybe 2025 will be different.

[Draxuss]

Playing right now and I like what I'm playing, the end.

[Deadly Dan]

Originally posted by katarack21:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

This game released yesterday.
If you buy the game now, you will get full access to the full content.

It is true, that there is a budget version to buy, that gives you later access to the same full game.

You keep saying this, and it keeps not being true. Game's full release is on Tuesday. Until then, it's only advanced access--if you want to phrase as such, a *partial* release.

Wrong this was the full release, this is the delayed access your talking about.

[Bacon Overlord®]

Originally posted by Deadly Dan:

Where are you looking? I see 81% positive, just was 82% so it'S dropping fast. And the people are superfans who payed full price to play it on release.

Oh, wow.. Yeah it did drop pretty quickly.

[Bacon Overlord®]

Originally posted by Draxuss:

Playing right now and I like what I'm playing, the end.

That's the important bit for sure.

[SkidaRu]

Hopefully the simp low i.q slop will end this year.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Its paid EA, so most of the current players are just hardcore fans and reviews are heavily biased.

I personaly fail to see how this game have "AMD RX 6800 XT / Nvidia RTX 3080" as recomended with 15 years old graphic.

[katarack21]

Originally posted by Deadly Dan:

Originally posted by katarack21:

You keep saying this, and it keeps not being true. Game's full release is on Tuesday. Until then, it's only advanced access--if you want to phrase as such, a *partial* release.

Wrong this was the full release, this is the delayed access your talking about.

How do you think this is the full release? Like that makes no sense. The Standard Version isn't released, so...it's not a full release. That's....that's how that works. Tha's the meaning of the term "full release". It's not fully released because not everybody who bought the game can play it.

My ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mind is boggled.

[Paz]

Originally posted by katarack21:

Originally posted by Crimson Dawn:

Nah wokesters from reddit just rush in to leave a good review for the new dei slop in town.

I'm curious, what would it take for you to accede that the game is a success?

But it isn't lmao nice try tho. You often stand in the corner of big corpos?

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by GuNNuP:

Originally posted by katarack21:

You seriously overestimate the requirements of matching the budget. The Outer Worlds didn't do anywhere near those numbers, but was a financial and commercial success.

obsidian learned how to manage money, therefore that's why they are able to have 3 projects running in tandem. They even lowerd the scope of the game.

Obsidian is not independent.
MS owns them. They are part of the Xbox Game Studios Division.

Its all MS money.. hence why they will never go out of business, their survival is a matter of if MS wants them or not.. (MS owns all IPs as well and could just close down Obsidian and give IPs to another subsidiary)

The reason why they have many projects is because all the studios within Xbox Studios help eachother (they loan eachother resources) you will see staff move from project to project and sometimes stick ofc.

Ie.. you will have seen staff from other projects come help on Avowed to get it finished up and then return back.. now staff from Avowed will either move to help other projects or get fired.

That is how corpo studios are run and even some of the independent.
However (this is a plus for MS) they do try to attain their staff and just give them smaller projects if they are not needed on a big one (instead of firing people)

But this can be an issue on quality and passion, as you will see staff be moved around like cattle and sometimes some projects are used as "training" ie.. this is basically Patel´s training game (the first real game she is game director on, I don´t think a little expansion count) so this is basically her make it or break it.

But lets say the best writers are on another project (TOW2 ie) then they can´t just work on Avowed.. so you either bring in new, have freelance or have some of the lesser valued ones be here for experience.


This is still a 40-60m budget game.. its full AA. (its not an AAA game ofcourse)
MS have actually shifted away from doing many AAA games, as they often are to long in production, don´t generate what they want and are to few to satisfy gamepass catalogue demand, so they have opted for more smaller games to fill out the catalogue.

[katarack21]

Originally posted by Deadly Dan:

Where are you looking? I see 81% positive, just was 82% so it'S dropping fast. And the people are superfans who payed full price to play it on release.

82.69% positive review ratings according to Steamdb.