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Jjustice 9 ago 2024, ore 16:47
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Keep the option of GENDER (or change to sex), NOT body type
The screenshots say "Body Type 1 / 2", the Demo says "Gender Male / Female".
Honestly keep it gender or change it to sex if you want to be correct.
Sexuality options of male/female/non-binary is absolutely fine, no need to use "body type" for sex.
Nobody is complaining about the demo having gender so please, keep it gender or change it to sex, just not body type

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On screenshot 31 it says type 1 / 2 on body.
On screenshot 32 it says "Gender female".

Seeing we live in a time where people are sensitive about both options, can't you just make it English 1 and English 2 in the language option, and let those that prefer the terms male and female to use English 2, and those that prefer body type instead of gender and/or sex, the choice of English 1?

I know it's a small thing, but Westerners find that important or something. This way everyone is happy


Edit: Krafton decided purely Body type 1 and 2 for the English language :/ This is a stupid mistake. Should've kept both options

Edit edit: Demo seems to embrace Gender male/female, but the screenshots still have body type. Honestly the way it is in the demo with the Gender options being male/female and then your sex identity male/female/nonbinary should honestly be enough. no need to remove gender and turning it into "body type"
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It literally does not matter either way
The funniest thing about this whole topic is that the people crying about "body type" in games have a shocking amount of overlap with people into futa. 😏
The game is just fine the way it is.
This is something that is very important to me. I auto-boycott any game with "body type" language in place of gender/sex. From the character creator demo, I think the way inzoi handled it is fine (with male/female options, an additional nb option for the people who want it). If they end up using body type language I will boycott the game.
Messaggio originale di April:
This is something that is very important to me. I auto-boycott any game with "body type" language in place of gender/sex. From the character creator demo, I think the way inzoi handled it is fine (with male/female options, an additional nb option for the people who want it). If they end up using body type language I will boycott the game.
Strongly agree, in my cultural circles, reducing male and female to simply a number is offensive. 99% of people have no issue with sex being male and female, and for sexual options men/women/nonbinary.

So I hope they don't listen to the 1% of people that are extreme misogynists and misandrists that won't play their games anyway.
Messaggio originale di April:
This is something that is very important to me. I auto-boycott any game with "body type" language in place of gender/sex. From the character creator demo, I think the way inzoi handled it is fine (with male/female options, an additional nb option for the people who want it). If they end up using body type language I will boycott the game.
Why do you care so much about a pointless label so much that you disregard the entire game?
You realize you're not going to see that minor thing outside of the customization?

Separating body type from the character's gender gives more option for everyone.
If the game is about realism, devs need to drop the outdated standards and learn from games like BG3 or even CP2077.
Messaggio originale di RedAISkye:
Messaggio originale di April:
This is something that is very important to me. I auto-boycott any game with "body type" language in place of gender/sex. From the character creator demo, I think the way inzoi handled it is fine (with male/female options, an additional nb option for the people who want it). If they end up using body type language I will boycott the game.
Why do you care so much about a pointless label so much that you disregard the entire game?
You realize you're not going to see that minor thing outside of the customization?

Separating body type from the character's gender gives more option for everyone.
If the game is about realism, devs need to drop the outdated standards and learn from games like BG3 or even CP2077.

Not everyone is American, those who aren't American are sick and tired of seeing this disgusting form of sexism seep into modern media.
Biological sex exists, it's a fact.
Yall fought so hard to claim that SEX and GENDER are two seperate things, now you are trying to explain that sex doesn't even exist.
This is an assault on women and men for many many cultures.

There is nothing wrong with calling it Sex. Transgender women are MALE by sex, but woman by gender.

That's exactly the option we ask for.
Keep the sex choice and keep the gender identity choice.

Females aren't "body type 2", that's disgusting misogyny.
So yes, for a lot of people body type instead of sex is the difference between buying a game, and not buying it (perhaps even illegally obtaining it).

There is NO reason what so ever to call sex "body type", it's not inclusive at all
Messaggio originale di Jjustice:
There is NO reason what so ever to call sex "body type", it's not inclusive at all
Regardless of what it's labelled, as long as the sex is separate from the gender, everyone gets the freedom of choice in creating their character however they want.

They can label it as Blue and Pink for all I care. The freedom of choice and variety in customization is what truly matters in creating a character. Not what text label a certain customization option is referred to as.

BG3 does the customization by far the best way by letting the player decide what type of character they want to make and how they want to play that character.
Messaggio originale di Aida Enna:
Messaggio originale di Jjustice:
Not everyone is American, those who aren't American are sick and tired of seeing this disgusting form of sexism seep into modern media.
Biological sex exists, it's a fact.
Yall fought so hard to claim that SEX and GENDER are two seperate things, now you are trying to explain that sex doesn't even exist.
This is an assault on women and men for many many cultures.

There is nothing wrong with calling it Sex. Transgender women are MALE by sex, but woman by gender.

That's exactly the option we ask for.
Keep the sex choice and keep the gender identity choice.

Females aren't "body type 2", that's disgusting misogyny.
So yes, for a lot of people body type instead of sex is the difference between buying a game, and not buying it (perhaps even illegally obtaining it).

There is NO reason what so ever to call sex "body type", it's not inclusive at all

Sorry to break it to you bud but the government and various other groups have been using number 1 and number 2 to describe things for a very long time. It's not "misogynistic" to use Type 1 or Type 2 instead of <term>. It's just covering all the bases (this is called being inclusive).

Why don't you go outside instead of worrying about what term people use? For someone who proudly claims "they're not american and tired of seeing this", you seem to be the problem here.

Also, change your profile picture. You're making fans of her art look bad.

Another misogynist proudly denegrating women and wanting them to become just a number.
This is a very valid request. Being a male or female is not just having a "body type", that requires different mesh and a censored chest area.

A good game should reflect that being a female or male means having a different set of advantages and disadvantages while living in a society:

Women always have huge amounts of attention, while men have none unless they are that 10% of male population that are recognized by women.

On the other side, men, on average, do better on many tasks in life, except giving birth.

Game is about creating interesting, compelling stories, and the best stories in history are those like "Gone by the Wind" which reflect on what means to be a woman or man in a genuine way that is believable.

When You abstract the man or woman as a mere "body type", You instantly kill 90% of immersion and fun.

I don't know - may be it is fun and ok for girls to play these kind of games where playing as a woman means just having a dude with a female mesh and everything else in the game world reacts to her as if she was a man, not a woman, but for me as a man - I want to be able to see the difference when I am trying to manage a female character in her "virtual life".

So please, very please: no body types in the game. Please implement features of male and female sex in an immersive and interesting way that is different for each of them in an interesting and meaningful way.
Messaggio originale di Aida Enna:
Messaggio originale di Jjustice:

Another misogynist proudly denegrating women and wanting them to become just a number.

I'm a cis female you idiot

There is no need to put "cis" in front of female, because female is a biological term.
Just because you're a female doesn't mean you can't be a misogynist.
Messaggio originale di RedAISkye:
Messaggio originale di April:
This is something that is very important to me. I auto-boycott any game with "body type" language in place of gender/sex. From the character creator demo, I think the way inzoi handled it is fine (with male/female options, an additional nb option for the people who want it). If they end up using body type language I will boycott the game.
Why do you care so much about a pointless label so much that you disregard the entire game?
You realize you're not going to see that minor thing outside of the customization?

Separating body type from the character's gender gives more option for everyone.
If the game is about realism, devs need to drop the outdated standards and learn from games like BG3 or even CP2077.
Yeah, BG3 was great because I got to slaughter every non-straight NPC. Pretty cool and satisfying.
Cyberpunk got like 1 mentally deluded dude who said he is a girl. And he had an extremely boring sidequest and toxic selfish personality, Totally skipable quest.


"Why do you care so much about a pointless label so much that you disregard the entire game?"
Because gender/sex means the same thing, even if I translate it via my native language it means the same, so not sure why do you care so much to want to change its meaning?
Body type has nothing to do with gender/sex, can I identify as an endomorph? My gender could be hourglass? What...?
So many right wing crazies crying and panicking over a translation in a Korean game, so funny!
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