Executing Special Moves

[Seraph]

I would like to learn to play fighting games, but i have a hard time to execute the special moves or to cain any combos 2+. I even cannot fnish lots of tutorial lessons in SG. Is there any technique i don't kown of to use the gamepad?

I use a PS3 Cotroller with D-Pad. And i use my thumb to push the buttons and my forefinger and middlefinger to push the shoudler buttons.

[avil]

I use my xbox controller and both thumbs to control d-pad / stick and action-buttons, forefingers and middlefingers for shifts (editional buttons on the top of controller). Nothing really special.

[Krackatoa]

Go into Training Mode and turn on Display Inputs - List.

Now that you can see your past inputs, you can break down what you're doing wrong.

1. Make sure you're actually doing a valid special move.

2. Make sure you have the meter for any Blockbusters you're trying to practice. You can turn on Unlimited Meter in Training Mode.

3. When doing a special move, look at the inputs.

D = Down
DF = Down+Forward
F = Forward
UF = Up+Forward
HK = Heavy Kick
QCF = Quarter Circle Forward (D,DF,F)
Savage Bypass = Valentine's Dashing Slash Attack.

Say you're trying to do QCF+HK with Valentine (Savage Bypass).

D, DF, F, HK and Bypass comes out, you did it correctly!

D, DF, F, HK and Bypass doesn't come out, you likely inputs HK too slowly. You might have also input the D, DF, F too slowly... or both!

If you find yourself jumping, you overshot your motion and hit HK too slowly, you can still input D, DF, F, UF, HK and get Bypass (Or other specials) provided you input the attack button before you leave the ground (It takes a fraction of a second for the character to jump after you hit any Upwards direction)

D, DF, HK, F and Bypass doesn't come out, you input HK too fast.

D, DF, HK, F and Bypass DOES come out, you actually input crouching HK, and cancelled it into Bypass when you released HK, as the game will register attack buttons being released for special moves. This is called "Negative Edge".

[Seraph]

QCF + P and QCF + PP works about 50%
QCB + K and QCB + KK works about 50%
F, D, DF + P works about 20%

and, if i try to chain combos in Tutorial Lesson LP+LP+LK+LK i can do LP+LP 2Combo but if i try to get 3+ and 4+ with LK+LK i am to slow with my thumb to go from LP to LK Button. Is taht normal and will get beterr if i invest some hours in training or am i much to slow for that game?

[avil]

Hah, practics fixes everything. You're not slow, you're just not used to it.

[Fireblaster]

Are you playing on a PS3? It says you don't have the game on steam

[Seraph]

yes, i play it on ps3. maybe blazeblue, sf2, arcana heart3 are better for me to start with?

[Detestable Geohound]

Originally posted by Seraph:

yes, i play it on ps3. maybe blazeblue, sf2, arcana heart3 are better for me to start with?

In my experience SkullGirls happens to be extremely lenient in terms of inputs, so it may be a good choice to stick with this game for learning how to play Fighting Games.

Quarter Circle Forward/Dragon Punch (Z) movements on a D-Pad are initially tricky. To hit the diagonal motion you have to make sure you're pressing both down and forward/backward or it wont register. Fortunately the PS3's D-Pad is godly, so this shouldnt be too difficult with a little bit of practice. Using the shoulder buttons are also at first a tad tricky but its all about making sure you're pressing them down hard enough.

Seriously, you're in good hands with a PS3 Controller. If you were using an Xbox 360 controller this would be another story entirely.

[Fireblaster]

No, skullgirls has the easiest inputs out of all of those so stick with it. Just go to training mode and look at your inputs, it'll become obvious what you're doing wrong.

[Fireblaster]

I asked about PS3 because there was a patch on the steam version that made it show your inputs in the tutorials.

[Seraph]

thx i use the input. my problem is iam move dpad not always right and timing of button is often wrong. i think i fail in everything.

[JasonS]

Try going into Training Mode and change the "Input Display" setting to "List".

This will show you exactly where you screwed up.

Pratice makes perfect, some of use have had 20 years of Street Fighter to train our hands to do those directional inputs, so its easy to forget that they're tricky for beginners to get the hang of.

[123 Casual Player]

If you cannot use the controller anyway, you can try learning keyboard. It's a lot better for a game like this.

[Seraph]

I think i will get ssf3 or ssf2 for ps3. which of the two games would you suggest?

[Detestable Geohound]

Originally posted by Seraph:

I think i will get ssf3 or ssf2 for ps3. which of the two games would you suggest?

If by Super Street Fighter 3 you mean Third Strike, I'd go with that.