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By no means should anyone depict an actual child in any sexual context, Shadman is a dummy that has actually ruined kids lives, & got kid youtubers to deplatform themselves from harassment.
https://youtu.be/ZvM6j-lkadE?list=PLXmM50IqiXCjmNX9sgSWBQJsWepdk5kis
https://youtu.be/CQgqImU4jQg?list=PLXmM50IqiXCjmNX9sgSWBQJsWepdk5kis
The age of sexualization in fiction is a pretty old argument just look at Lolita.
I'm going to just address things individually:
-Are there age limits?
I would say the age of consent for fictional characters is a safe spot. However, I've been thinking lately about how common it used to be to sexualize teenagers in the past compared to today. The gaming audience for such things were largely teenagers back then. An appeal to similar age group. It was a time when older people would fade away from games and the youth dominated it. Now, I'd venture that half if not more are adults in their 20s-30s because of how much a staple the "Gamer" identity became.
-Are there limits on animals?
I'm going to ♥♥♥♥ the bear, and I don't care. If the game does it in a funny/amusing way, then I'm in. If it tries to convey some sort of moral lesson that love shouldn't be restricted by species and that we shouldn't judge such things, then I have a lot of preachers to apologize to from when I said it was stupid to think we were heading towards marrying ducks.
-Are there limits on atrocities/truamatic events (The Holocaust/Unit 731/The Sandy Hook shooting)?
I think there's a certain amount of time that should pass. I'd say 3 years until development can start, and maybe 10 years before a title should be released. Preferably not on the anniversary. I would also say that it depends how it's done. We've had numerous WW2 games. It's how many learn about some of the battles. I'd say anything reflecting a real event should be as historically accurate as possible, though. Sandy Hook, though? I'm not sure how you would pull it off and still be tasteful. I think Unit 731 and similar things should ABSOLUTELY be in games, though. We like to forget the absolute atrocities that have been committed in wars, and maybe people could use some perspective.
-Are there limits for gore in porn?
My internet history would make the average person cry, but I'm going to go with "yes" because as I get older, I think that violence shouldn't be so central to entertainment and culture.
-Are there limits for real people being sexualized in art (no real person is exploited in the making of the illustration/media)?
I'm reminded of the fabled Nirvana cover. I think if a person is personally willing to pose, it's fine. I don't see the human body as something sinful that needs to be hidden or looked away from at any age, but there is also something to be said about people growing up and regretting that their young naked body is out there. So, I'm going with "yes" and it should probably be 24 so that people spend time in the real world before they do something that will live forever and potentially give them regrets.
-Should the extreme material be censored and hidden from public audiences or should it be shown on the front pages of erotica websites and journals (a "sensitive content" toggle, for example)?
I do not think that the news or any website should be frontloading graphic content that is violent, but I don't really care if sexual stuff is displayed unless the sexual stuff could also be perceived as violent.
-Is there a slippery slope from censoring extreme imagery to censoring mildly obscene or remotely uncomfortable imagery?
Absolutely there is. What is mild today is extreme tomorrow, and what is extreme today can be mild tomorrow. The slippery slope is very real, but it's always a question of which way things will roll. We could say that Filia is fine at 16 to sexualize, but then a few years later people think 14 is fine. We could say that only sexualizing 18 year olds is fine, and then years later people may start to say that 18 is too close to being a minor and that it should go up to 20, and then as 20 year olds start getting viewed the same way, it goes up and up. This is why I think body types and character personality should be bigger consideration factors for sexualization than numbers.
-Is censorship of art already a problem in this country?
I assume the USA, and I'd say it's oddly exclusive to video games. Take a look at "Drawn Together" sometime. People pretty much let anything slide as long as there is an age disclaimer, but for some reason age ratings in games don't matter, and never have. Parents look at 17+ and think "well, it's fine if my 10 year old plays it" and then get up in arms when they found out that a game rated for people old enough to be sexually active, and close to or already at an age where they can die in a war has a strip club in it.
-Does your taste in obscene erotic artwork say anything about the type of person you are in real life?
I'm not on trial here, and I refuse to speak without my lawyer present.
Calm down, it's not just about Filia, this is a conversation about what limits we put around erotica in general, it's not just about Filia,
I think about that sometimes. If an underage in a show is portrayed as the "attractive" girl, where does the artists reference of attractiveness? Are they putting traits they find attractive onto this character? If so, they attracted to their own character? I don't know, but all art is expression of perception and I enjoy deconstructing what the art says about the author, so that was always a neat question to me.
These question are mostly talking about sexual content, so...is there a limit on things like that involving sexualization of animals, real or fake? Why?
I'd definitely be into a dramatic representation of Unit 731 in a game or movie, just to reveal what happened. Japan still denies it even though there's photo and documented evidence of the people killed and tortured to the exact number. What i wanna know though is; can people sexualize events like Unit 731 and Sandy Hook? I genuinely don't know if someone would ever support that but that would be a REALLY interesting take.
Interesting. I'm also on the side of being against the way violence is currently portrayed. In games and movies, the viewer is discouraged from thoroughly contemplating the amount of harm they're committing and although I don't claim it'll lead to real violence; it still stifles the creative potential of discussing the real affects of mass violence, which should be done more often. In porn though, im personally against it, but I won't fight anyone over it.
Oh, of course that's a safe answer to say, if they're above 24 and consent, they can willingly be sexualized in artwork, but i'm talking about nonconsensual sexualization and possible sexualization of underage persons. What are your thoughts on that? Should it be allowed? Why?
Interesting. Quite the monk mentality here. I have nothing to say.
Okay. But age can sometimes be relevant to a stories plot or setting. If the character is canonically underage, or even intended to be a representation of underage persons, should that be censored or not? Why?
GTA5. And sometimes the parents fail to check the rating and play Happy Tree House Friends on the tv in front of their 8 year old. Then again, porn websites do this to. They don't even check I.D. they just go "Are you 18?" They don't even have a Captcha lmao. At least that would keep out the kids who can't read.
Ayo? Sus? jk
If I could ask you a disturbed question it'd be, "Why though"? What exactly makes this mans erotic artwork of real children worth removing? I have my belief, but I want you to explain yours.
I think I had other reasons too but I am both tired & would need to rewatch the videos to remember probably.
I actually don't think I remember any unwanted attention coming toward the kids in question, them being Dafne Keen and Keemstars daughter. Nothing involving sexual harassment or any assault.
So in that instance, what would be the precedent for censoring this artwork?
Ok. What if it was realistic fiction, like a character was invented to take place in an atrocity like the Holocaust. Would it be okay to sexualize the things that happened to her? Or the same for a made up kid during the Sandy Hook shooting.
Why not real children as well, as long as no child is exploited in the making of any of said material. Is there a reason to censor it?
Not even real people? Would you be fine with cartoon porn being made of child actors?