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Thalq May 30, 2020 @ 8:19am
MikeZ's response and explanation to the Sonicfox drama + refunds
Just dropping this here (it has already been mentioned but for visibility I think it deserves its own thread):

https://mikezsez.blogspot.com/2020/05/i-guess-its-time-to-talk-about-sonicfox.html
Last edited by Thalq; May 30, 2020 @ 8:19am
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shoddysketches May 30, 2020 @ 8:53am 
Just wish there was a toggle option. Mods fine for PC but if the update is gonna come to console modding isn't an option. Might as well add the toggle to the PC version while you're at it.
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DuckieMcduck May 30, 2020 @ 9:22am 
Kinda impressed he's offering the refunds out of his pocket. Granted his window for "reasonable grievance" is pretty vague.

Originally posted by shoddysketches:
Just wish there was a toggle option. Mods fine for PC but if the update is gonna come to console modding isn't an option. Might as well add the toggle to the PC version while you're at it.
There's the option of growing some skin, Brad
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468528456 May 30, 2020 @ 10:19am 
Originally posted by UnluckyDuckie:
There's the option of growing some skin, Brad
That crap ain't gonna work. You pay money for a product and they "update" it to something you don't like, you let them know.

My grievance is less about furrydude and more that they removed Victoria. No, just nope.
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Ezra May 30, 2020 @ 10:26am 
He's being way too nice to these people, paying out of his own pocket to be able to refund them all. I respect his decision to do this, but I have a feeling that these are the kinds of people who take an inch and think they're a ruler after that. Never a good mix.

Good on him for sticking to his guns and keeping them in, though. Thank you for posting this. I'll be sure to save the link for anyone who needs it, I suppose.
Last edited by Ezra; May 30, 2020 @ 10:31am
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RedRummage May 30, 2020 @ 10:27am 
While I do think a toggle option is asking too much, I DO however think a fun options is a ratio system for backer sprites similar to Smash Ultimate's stage music settings. This isn't for a means to have backer sprites be excluded, but more for say: someone who did pay for the backer sprite to have their character appear every time the stage loads or something similar. That seems like it would be too much work to add, and I'm more than fine with what we've got for our options, especially with how Skullmod works.
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Tactical Turtle Neck May 30, 2020 @ 10:31am 
while I don't like sonic fox I don't mind them being an NPC, I just don't like that they 50% of the time replace a Skullgirls character especially Mrs Victoria. Mrs Victoria (and Annie) was one of the characters I wanted as DLC, unfortunately she didn't make it, but it was nice she at least had her own stage that she always appeared in. I'D rather Sonicfox get their own stage than share one with Vic or any Skullgirlls character, that goes for all non Skullgirls NPCs.



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Ezra May 30, 2020 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by 468528456:
Originally posted by UnluckyDuckie:
There's the option of growing some skin, Brad
That crap ain't gonna work. You pay money for a product and they "update" it to something you don't like, you let them know.

My grievance is less about furrydude and more that they removed Victoria. No, just nope.

Even though they didn't remove her. If you actually read the post, you would have seen that it's just on a rotation between the two characters.
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468528456 May 30, 2020 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Mezzo:
Even though they didn't remove her. If you actually read the post, you would have seen that it's just on a rotation between the two characters.

Originally posted by Tactical Turtle Neck:
I'D rather Sonicfox get their own stage than share one with Vic or any Skullgirlls character, that goes for all non Skullgirls NPCs.
As has been pointed out already, they could have just put SonicFox to the side without removing Victoria. She's not in the level thus has been removed. Why?
Last edited by 468528456; May 30, 2020 @ 10:36am
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DuckieMcduck May 30, 2020 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by 468528456:
Originally posted by UnluckyDuckie:
There's the option of growing some skin, Brad
My grievance is less about furrydude and more that they removed Victoria. No, just nope.
Well, this both shows that you have both zero skin (hilarious for a Postal fan btw) and zero knowledge on the topic. The npcs are in a fixed rotation. Loading the map again puts her there.
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Ezra May 30, 2020 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by 468528456:
Originally posted by Mezzo:
Even though they didn't remove her. If you actually read the post, you would have seen that it's just on a rotation between the two characters.

Originally posted by Tactical Turtle Neck:
I'D rather Sonicfox get their own stage than share one with Vic or any Skullgirlls character, that goes for all non Skullgirls NPCs.
As has been pointed out already, they could have just put SonicFox to the side without removing Victoria. She's not in the level thus has been removed.

As has already been pointed out, they didn't remove her. It's just a rotation between who appears. She wasn't removed.
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Tactical Turtle Neck May 30, 2020 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Mezzo:
He's being way too nice to these people, paying out of his own pocket to be able to refund them all. I respect his decision to do this, but I have a feeling that these are the kinds of people who take an inch and think they're a ruler after that. Never a good mix.

Good on him for sticking to his guns and keeping them in, though. Thank you for posting this. I'll be sure to save the link for anyone who needs it, I suppose.
He shouldn't refund them since there is a mod to remove it.
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468528456 May 30, 2020 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Mezzo:
She wasn't removed.
She isn't in the level. She's been removed and replaced with Sonic Fox who they could have just put to the side. Why?
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Ezra May 30, 2020 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Tactical Turtle Neck:
Originally posted by Mezzo:
He's being way too nice to these people, paying out of his own pocket to be able to refund them all. I respect his decision to do this, but I have a feeling that these are the kinds of people who take an inch and think they're a ruler after that. Never a good mix.

Good on him for sticking to his guns and keeping them in, though. Thank you for posting this. I'll be sure to save the link for anyone who needs it, I suppose.
He shouldn't refund them since there is a mod to remove it.

Believe me, I wish he didn't feel that he had to. He even points it out in that post that there's a mod to remove the character.

He's too good a dude for that.
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Ezra May 30, 2020 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by 468528456:
Originally posted by Mezzo:
She wasn't removed.
She isn't in the level. She's been removed and replaced with Sonic Fox who they could have just put to the side. Why?

Okay you're not even listening and you're just copy/pasting the same response.
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Tactical Turtle Neck May 30, 2020 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Mezzo:
Originally posted by 468528456:



As has been pointed out already, they could have just put SonicFox to the side without removing Victoria. She's not in the level thus has been removed.

As has already been pointed out, they didn't remove her. It's just a rotation between who appears. She wasn't removed.
we know they didn't remove her from the game we are talking about how she doesn't always appear on her own stage.
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