How rare is gold supposed to be?

[Iskaka]

So I have been playing with a mate in the astroid field, we have progressed well and currently have two operational miners and spend alot of time out scanning astroids because we only ever found ONE small gold vein with roughly 30k gold in it.

We have each spent lots of hours looking further and further out to not check the same spot twice, we have combined found over a dozen veins og uranium, silver, platinum and countless veins of other materials after scanning hundreds of astroids!

Are we doing something wrong here? why the heck can we find all these supposedly "rarer" metals but not any gold?

[Jack Schitt]

Gold can be found on asteroids and on planets. I tend to find larger deposits of it on earth-like planets. If you're playing a Star System custom game Spaceman Spiff has posted very much appreciated mods that give us a lot of ore locations for that world map.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2347992479
There's more than uranium in the GPS lists. It seems he noted and shared everything he consistently found in the same place. Most of the markers in his mods I've followed were on asteroids outside of the Earth-like planet's gravity.

[Dan2D3D]

Hi, gold is about 2% but can be found faster at the easy Biomes of all planets.

I start by exploring the asteroids around Moons and between the Moon and its close planet.

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Keep in mind Moons have all ores -1 that is Uranium but can be found faster by exploring the asteroids around it.

[Dan2D3D]

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There are poor areas in space so it is harder starting over there and will help to buy at the Store block of Trading stations if needed.



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It gives us a different gameplay starting in space, there are Easy, Medium, Hard and very Hard areas we can start at and looks like you are at a hard/Poor area.

[bossbill1]

Its just down to luck really... In my latest playthrough it took me 2 hrs realtime to find an asteroid with Cobalt on it. Found multiples of all the other ores, When I did eventually find it I cleared out the whole asteroid, got over 1 million Kg of ore...Dont think I will be needing to find Cobalt again any time soon lol

[Dan2D3D]

I think we all searched for hours to no avail in the beginning, join the club ;)

I can tell we have to explore only one time, it takes a lot of playing time to explore the Star System world and you will notice the Rich ores spots are always at the same areas.

[Iskaka]

Originally posted by Dan2D3D:

Hi, gold is about 2% but can be found faster at the easy Biomes of all planets.

I start by exploring the asteroids around Moons and between the Moon and its close planet.

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Keep in mind Moons have all ores -1 that is Uranium but can be found faster by exploring the asteroids around it.

2% of all ores then?

Originally posted by Dan2D3D:

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There are poor areas in space so it is harder starting over there and will help to buy at the Store block of Trading stations if needed.



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It gives us a different gameplay starting in space, there are Easy, Medium, Hard and very Hard areas we can start at and looks like you are at a hard/Poor area.

Oh right, Is the map fixed then and not randomly generated? and do these "poor areas" sometimes just exclude one ore, how large are they generally if we want to escape it?

[Dan2D3D]

It's just harder in space so specified when we start with the space ship from the respawn screen, space is made to be hard so it's not the place to start if you want to avoid searching for hours.

But you will know where it is easier to find all ores when playing in space because they are all at the same GPS, why I said we have to explore one time only.

[Dan2D3D]

For example and to compare with space (2%)

Pertam Gold Ore 11.54%
Alien Gold ore 8%
Europa Gold Ore 7.3%
Mars Gold Ore 7%
Earth Gold Ore 7%
Moon Gold Ore 3%
Titan Gold Ore 1.3%

[Iskaka]

Originally posted by Dan2D3D:

For example and to compare with space (2%)

Pertam Gold Ore 11.54%
Alien Gold ore 8%
Europa Gold Ore 7.3%
Mars Gold Ore 7%
Earth Gold Ore 7%
Moon Gold Ore 3%
Titan Gold Ore 1.3%

oh, where can I find the overivew what the different planets have?

[Dan2D3D]

I have used Google but I remember one shared all planet Maps, I will look for it and post here when found.

[Dan2D3D]

The Space engineers Wiki was updated in 2021 so probably good or very close values :

https://www.spaceengineerswiki.com/Ores

[Dan2D3D]

I found a SE guide in the "Guides" link on top of the forum that may help to know more :

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2975151849

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Go to "Ore Rarity" i that guide.

[Scapegoat]

Having played the starting game dozens (shamefully, maybe hundreds) of times (starting in space), my usual habit is to locate at least one source of each ore before settling down. Usually, I'll have to scout out about 30 asteroids before finding them all. Gold and Cobalt (oddly enough) are usually the last ores I tend to find. And by that time, I've often got one, two, or even three sources of platinum and uranium.

To answer your original question, in my experience, gold is the rarest of ores found in space.

[Pembroke]

Originally posted by Iskaka:

Oh right, Is the map fixed then and not randomly generated?

The answer is "yes and no". That is, the asteroids are computer generated because that's pretty much the only way to do it as they are infinite in number (or at least as much as your computer can handle). However, the initial seed the game uses to generate the map is always the same. That means you will have the exact same asteroids at the exact same locations containing the same ore deposits. Or, at least if you choose the same game start with the same option choices (e.g. choosing "low density" asteroids obviously gives less asteroids than "high density"). So, they are randomly generated in this sense but it's always the same game map. Of course, since your starting location in space will be random the asteroids in your local vicinity will be random from your point-of-view.

The planets are handled a bit differently. They are pre-made height maps and the ore deposits in them are a pre-made overlay map on top of that. Meaning the planets are always the same as are their ore locations. Of course, here too your initial starting location will be random and because the planets are quite large from your point-of-view it looks "random enough".

This also means that you could, if you wanted to, keep a list of all your ore GPS location markers and continue to compile a big list of them from all your Space Engineer games. Actually, could even be a common Wiki-based database for *all* players to put the ore locations. Call it a "Miner's Guild Prospector Data" or something. If you wanted to. The other side of the coin is that part of the fun is to search and find and knowing kind of prevents that. But you could do it if you wanted to.

[A Fat, Angry Serval]

Part of the issue with gold is that the deposits are set deeper than a small-grid ore detector can find, so you NEED a large grid ore detector. Earliest way to get a mobile large grid ore detector going is by building a large grid ore detector, slapping a rotor with a small grid head on it, locking the rotor, and then building a rover around the detector and rotor.