Colour Palette suggestions

[raymazoida]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who occasionally gets frustrated woth the colour palette, I would like to make a few suggestions for it's improvement (thoughts appreciated)

1 - Ability to save the current palette, even if you can only have one save, so you can save a ship/station colour scheme for use across a fleet/faction of ships.

2 - the "default" button goes to world defaults. The current one on the world I play resets to a different set of defaults than the ones the world was launched with - which at the time were the Keen defaults, not sure if they have changed - this gets a bit annoying on occasion, especially as you can't save the current set, set to default and then start another one.

3 - Swap from the current mixing system to RGB, I often find myself wanting another colour - for example a nice chocolate brown, a proper "Tree green" etc, and it can often take up to half hour of surfing to find the right colour in RGB, then find a site to translate it in to the HSV system. I feel RGB would make it easier as we could just use a dipper tool in our faviourte paint programs to grap the colour we like from a picture and use that. (note I'm not a graphics buff, and I'm aware there are people who may prefer the current system, but I feel RBG is more "noob friendly" and esaier to use for the majority)

Anyway, thoughts/feedback/other suggestions on the colour palette welcome

[a_rhizome]

I agree with you...having a larger, cross-map pallete would be very useful. Also, creating just the right shade of khaki/olive drab is always a pain right now.

[Fury6]

Originally posted by mrraybaker:

[...]1 - Ability to save the current palette, even if you can only have one save, so you can save a ship/station colour scheme for use across a fleet/faction of ships.

Definitely, more flexible palette handling would be welcome.

Originally posted by mrraybaker:

[...]2 - the "default" button goes to world defaults.

Follows directly from point 1. A more flexible palette system should necessarily include default palette manipulation.

Originally posted by mrraybaker:

[...]3 - Swap from the current mixing system to RGB, I often find myself

Can't agree, purely subjective. Doesn't really matter (at least, I don't think it does personally at this stage) which system you use, you're just going to make some *other* aspect of colour selection more difficult in any case. The HSV system makes it a breeze to select the perfect saturation and intensity levels for a given hue. If you just stop considering it important to think in terms of RGB then you'll have no difficulty.

OTOH the RGB system makes it easier for people who insist on thinking in RGB terms to choose just the right RGB mix they have in mind. Those who are more interested in a specfic saturation and intensity level are going to have more trouble with an RGB mixer, though. Personally I think RGBI might actually be more generally useful than RGB.

We could use CMYK or one of the other remaining methods, again it will make some aspects of colour selection/comparison easier but fail on other aspects. No matter which is used, some people will have a happy time and others won't. I don't see that 'noob' factor is of any relevance.

Just my opinion.

[willem.huiskamp]

On the point of changing the colour palette: I have thought about changing it to RGB as well. Because it is more easy for many people. But changing would be logical for another reason as well.

At the moment multiple color palettes are used in the game. For the lighting colors the RGB system is already in use, for the block coloring it is the HSV system. Quite confusing. I did find me in situations where I did find the perfect combination of colors for the lighting and walls in a RGB system and then not getting it in the game, because the exact translation to HSV for the wall colors was not there. I did find conversion tables on the internet, but those gave different results for the exact same colors. And none of them resulted in the color I did want to make.

No, I agree that changing to RGB and thereby using just one palet through the game would be far more logical.

[raymazoida]

Originally posted by willem.huiskamp:

On the point of changing the colour palette: I have thought about changing it to RGB as well. Because it is more easy for many people. But changing would be logical for another reason as well.

At the moment multiple color palettes are used in the game. For the lighting colors the RGB system is already in use, for the block coloring it is the HSV system. Quite confusing. I did find me in situations where I did find the perfect combination of colors for the lighting and walls in a RGB system and then not getting it in the game, because the exact translation to RGB for the wall colors was not there. I did find conversion tables on the internet, but those gave different results for the exact same colors. And none of them resulted in the color I did want to make.

No, I agree that changing to RGB and thereby using just one palet through the game would be far more logical.

I would agree that they should use the same system for both lights and blocks.

And I have the same problem with the "conversion" tables, they are not exact therefore some "playing is required"

[raymazoida]

Fury - with regard to using RGB/HSV that is purely subjective from my point, mostly because I've been using RGB most of my life therefore I find it easier. I don't really mind using HSV, apart from the fact that as I mentioned above conversion doesn't seem exact, and most of the "values for this colour block" pages on the net are for RGB because that seems to be what more people use. I've yet to find a page which lists various "paint" colours with HSV numbers... so if you know of any I would be really grateful and will bookmark.

Like I said though, my preference for RGB is mostly because I've used it more, and I find mixing a colour that way much easier, without the need to result to looking at websites to find a colour close to what I have in mind, translating it to HSV then tweaking it some more.