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Tungsten Jul 20, 2021 @ 4:20pm
Reduce single player lag?
Im wondering ways to reduce lag in single player. it can be world setting, game settings, or what ever that might help, even mods. i like to build big bases on planets and i like to build giant mega ships, however the update speed is so slow its unplayable. i wish this game was better optimized, however its fun so its not too much of an issue. anything will help. :steamthumbsup:
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Commander_Black Jul 20, 2021 @ 4:40pm 
single player is 100% optimised, if youre having lag issues its your equipment that has trouble keeping up.
But there are ways to reduce lagg issues. Im not the best to help you because ive never had this issue.
Altho, lowering your graphics, setting view distance lower, closing background programs (including anti-virus) are the first things you should try.
Tungsten Jul 20, 2021 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Commander_Black:
single player is 100% optimised, if youre having lag issues its your equipment that has trouble keeping up.
But there are ways to reduce lagg issues. Im not the best to help you because ive never had this issue.
Altho, lowering your graphics, setting view distance lower, closing background programs (including anti-virus) are the first things you should try.
Yeah, i know that the best way is just getting better equipment, however the game runs fine just the update or tick speed goes to ♥♥♥♥. im a little careful about that av stuff however, cause like i know its fine if i temp disable, but i still like it on
Commander_Black Jul 20, 2021 @ 5:07pm 
Same here, i like my AV on but when i had a computer that couldnt handle my games, i'd turn my internet off and disable the AV to gain more ram for the game. If you play single-player, its your best option ^^
Tungsten Jul 20, 2021 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by Commander_Black:
Same here, i like my AV on but when i had a computer that couldnt handle my games, i'd turn my internet off and disable the AV to gain more ram for the game. If you play single-player, its your best option ^^
thanks, ill try this, im also removing as many mods as possible, although i dont have many to start with
ShadedMJ Jul 20, 2021 @ 5:22pm 
An issue I had long ago was stuttering. I found I had view distance at 20km or something, so turned that down to something reasonable.
Tungsten Jul 20, 2021 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by ShadedMJ:
An issue I had long ago was stuttering. I found I had view distance at 20km or something, so turned that down to something reasonable.
oh wow yeah, ill go and check my settings real quick, but i think mines fine
Dan2D3D  [developer] Jul 21, 2021 @ 6:53am 
Hi, the best to withdraw the Lag is to play Offline mode, the option we can select on creating the world.

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Low Simulation Speed can be caused by :

1 - Absurdly huge creations close to Physical Shape limit.

2 - Absurdly huge Hydrogen system using a lot of Hydro tanks, O2/H2 Gens and Hydro thrusters.

3 - Mods and/or Scripts.

4 - Extreme Graphic setting with FOV above 70.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Jul 21, 2021 @ 6:54am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Jul 21, 2021 @ 7:07am 
I will add :
The best is to create a copy using the "Save as" (change save name), and load that copy to delete one grid / one Mod at a time to pinpoint the problem.

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Share your save so me and/or Veteran players can load to help on finding the cause.

>> How to publish a world save :

1 - Select your save.

2 - Click the "Publish" button on the left.

3 - Choose a proper Tag or skip all and click the OK button.

4 - Your world will be uploaded to Steam Workshop.

5 - Share the Workshop item link here.
Karmaterrorᵁᴷ Jul 21, 2021 @ 7:54am 
Originally posted by Commander_Black:
single player is 100% optimised

Not sure i agree with that statement lol

But on the subject of saving performance try stuff like...

Limit the world, no procedural asteroids, and smaller hand placed planets.
Keep your build to a sensible size, if you go big you will have issues even in an empty world.
Use as few Programable blocks as possible, optimise your lighting to use as few lights as possible.


Finding a scale that works well and does not hinder performance much is part of the learning curve with SE :)
Tungsten Jul 21, 2021 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by Dan2D3D:
Hi, the best to withdraw the Lag is to play Offline mode, the option we can select on creating the world.

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Low Simulation Speed can be caused by :

1 - Absurdly huge creations close to Physical Shape limit.

2 - Absurdly huge Hydrogen system using a lot of Hydro tanks, O2/H2 Gens and Hydro thrusters.

3 - Mods and/or Scripts.

4 - Extreme Graphic setting with FOV above 70.
thats good advise to find the problem, thank you. i found some old mods that werent updated causing issues. Also, i like to make giant ships and mega bases so i know why its slow, but i was trying to optimize it as much as possible
Dan2D3D  [developer] Jul 21, 2021 @ 8:11am 
I build absurdly huge Motherships and I always keep an eye on the SimSpeed, I stop when I see it going under 1.00 and delete the problem right away.

-> Hit Shift+F11 one time to see the world stats on screen.

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I found the best size doing so, the "Good Perfo" size that is no more than 100 blocks long and no more than 100 000 PCU = That is where I can build playable ships for Solo and MP, but we surely can go above and can have a better Perfo using high end PC.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Jul 21, 2021 @ 9:19am 
More info :

100 000 PCU is the OK size but I tested 100K PCU Workshop items that were unplayable because using Mods and Scripts.

Best advice = Always keep an eye on the SimSpeed and adding/testing One Mod at a time will help a lot at finding low Sim problem.



Edit
Not all Mods/Scripts will lower the SimSpeed so the testing one at a time is a Must.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Jul 21, 2021 @ 9:25am
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