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carl.wear Oct 15, 2024 @ 4:38pm
Questions about connecting large grid to small and vice versa.
How many ways are there to connect large grid to small without using mods?

I know you can build small grid off of a large grid rotor and a large grid hinge. And you can also join them up using a connector.

Are there any other methods besides those three?

Also is there anyway to build large grid off of a small grid or do you have to make the large grid part separate and join them up with a connector?

What I am looking at doing is:

1) Building a small grid structure off of a large grid base. {Its going to be a permanent structure off the base so using the rotor / hinge trick may look messy}

2) Trying to find a easier way to connect large grid items like drills, ore detectors to small grid ships without having to build the large grid part separate to the small grid.

Thanks.
Originally posted by jafiwam:
Originally posted by carl.wear:
So Connecting a small grid building to a large grid base is NOT a little bit fiddly, its a nightmare if you want it to line up with the large grid blocks.

Trying to get the small grid connector to line up and connect to the large grid one and building off the connector was not a good idea.

Next time I'm just making a building and using a crane, ship or vehicle to just shove it in place. if it doesn't line up with the rest of the grid, too bad.

My method for this is a large hinge with a small grid head then armor blocks and a few pistons to drop a magnetic plate or connector perfectly in the proper spot. You can line up small grid plates anywhere specifically on the face of a large grid block. Or set a small grid connector down on a large grid connector perfectly.

Learned this trick building scriptless automated sun tracking solar panel towers where you need to get the small grid rotation gear exactly placed.
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Khumash Oct 15, 2024 @ 8:52pm 
Landing gear can attach your small grid house to your big grid base. However, there is limited functionality. Instead, you should use connectors so that your small grid house has access to the base inventory.

afaik, there is no way to put a large ore detector on a small grid ship/truck.
carl.wear Oct 15, 2024 @ 9:05pm 
Originally posted by Khumash:
Landing gear can attach your small grid house to your big grid base. However, there is limited functionality. Instead, you should use connectors so that your small grid house has access to the base inventory.

afaik, there is no way to put a large ore detector on a small grid ship/truck.

I found you can build the ore detector in large grid, add a battery and connector and connect the ore detector to a small grid ship / vehicle that way. It is a little fiddly which is why I was wondering if there is a easier way I don't know of. Also, large grid drill works great on a small mining ship using connectors to carry it.
Darkaiser Oct 15, 2024 @ 9:27pm 
There is a Conveyor component that has a large port on one side and three small ones on the other. Great for custom turrets but YMMV.
carl.wear Oct 16, 2024 @ 12:45am 
So Connecting a small grid building to a large grid base is NOT a little bit fiddly, its a nightmare if you want it to line up with the large grid blocks.

Trying to get the small grid connector to line up and connect to the large grid one and building off the connector was not a good idea.

Next time I'm just making a building and using a crane, ship or vehicle to just shove it in place. if it doesn't line up with the rest of the grid, too bad.
carl.wear Oct 16, 2024 @ 3:17am 
Originally posted by REALRACE:
i always keep some distance to have no contact besides the "subgridding" block
(mighty Clang has many ways, to show his power)

"supergridding" would be a (complicated?) way, to "melt" those two sizes together

perhaps share a screenshot? i think, it might be easier to help finding a solution (?)

Whats the screenshot key again?
Scorp0102 Oct 16, 2024 @ 3:30am 
i found that using hinge is safest because u just need to center 2 sides instead of 4 on rotor and hinges are less clangy tnere is also way of using wheels but u need script or mod to attach them because default wheels does not have button attach but it exists so u need build vision mod or script that forces it grid connected as wheel is indestructible and shares traction of wheel so u can build cool landing gear but i found hard way it can be clangy if build wrong way
Connecting a small grid to a large grid isn't so bad (usually). The large grid rotors and hinges can spawn small grid rotor/hinge parts via the menu. This can be advantageous when adding AI blocks, timers, programmable blocks, etc. on a compact, large grid build.

Where things get goofy is in trying to add a large grid block to a small grid. The ratio in mass means the small grid will start to fly funny or not stay level in atmosphere. Example: attaching a large grid ore detector to your small grid ship.
Originally posted by carl.wear:
So Connecting a small grid building to a large grid base is NOT a little bit fiddly, its a nightmare if you want it to line up with the large grid blocks.

Beg to differ there, you just have to figure out how to make an alignment rig and it gets easy. You've talked about all the pieces, start working out how the game applies especially gravity-driven torque to subgrids and how you can counteract it, how you can make them do what you want.

edit:

Trying to get the small grid connector to line up and connect to the large grid one and building off the connector was not a good idea.

But that's exactly what I do. Once you figure out how to do it it's foolproof, fast and easy.
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jafiwam Oct 16, 2024 @ 8:50pm 
Originally posted by carl.wear:
So Connecting a small grid building to a large grid base is NOT a little bit fiddly, its a nightmare if you want it to line up with the large grid blocks.

Trying to get the small grid connector to line up and connect to the large grid one and building off the connector was not a good idea.

Next time I'm just making a building and using a crane, ship or vehicle to just shove it in place. if it doesn't line up with the rest of the grid, too bad.

My method for this is a large hinge with a small grid head then armor blocks and a few pistons to drop a magnetic plate or connector perfectly in the proper spot. You can line up small grid plates anywhere specifically on the face of a large grid block. Or set a small grid connector down on a large grid connector perfectly.

Learned this trick building scriptless automated sun tracking solar panel towers where you need to get the small grid rotation gear exactly placed.
carl.wear Oct 17, 2024 @ 2:35am 
Originally posted by jafiwam:
Originally posted by carl.wear:
So Connecting a small grid building to a large grid base is NOT a little bit fiddly, its a nightmare if you want it to line up with the large grid blocks.

Trying to get the small grid connector to line up and connect to the large grid one and building off the connector was not a good idea.

Next time I'm just making a building and using a crane, ship or vehicle to just shove it in place. if it doesn't line up with the rest of the grid, too bad.

My method for this is a large hinge with a small grid head then armor blocks and a few pistons to drop a magnetic plate or connector perfectly in the proper spot. You can line up small grid plates anywhere specifically on the face of a large grid block. Or set a small grid connector down on a large grid connector perfectly.

Learned this trick building scriptless automated sun tracking solar panel towers where you need to get the small grid rotation gear exactly placed.

That sounds like the easist solution. So build from rotors to get building lined up and then lock it down with a mag plate and THEN remove the rotor.

Thats why I was trying to find a alternative solution to building from rotor as I didn't want a large rotor cluttering up the building, but rotor and then mag plate. i will have to try that.

Thanks.
Captain Canard Oct 17, 2024 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by Khumash:
Landing gear can attach your small grid house to your big grid base. However, there is limited functionality. .

I use the magnetic plate to stick things like my plushies onto furniture, hang pictures on walls, and even build my own custom small grid furniture and lab equipment where I can run small grid experiments in my large grid rooms. It works really great! Of course, like you say, the small grid is totally independent from the large grid it's "stuck" to, but in my use cases, this is okay and actually even preferred.
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