Wheel Issues

[Capt Fuzzy]

Though I've learned how to do a lot with SE, I'm admittedly still a bit of a noob at this 'engineering' stuff.
A perfect example of this is a current problem that I'm having with a trailer that I'm working on.
The wheels will not rotate.
I've done several searches and tried every fix that I could find, even some old 'fixes' (dating back to as early as 2015), I even removed and replaced the entire wheel assembly, but none of these fixes has fixed anything, the wheels still continue to remain in what I am calling a 'locked' state. Basically, if this was a real-life wheel, with brakes, I'd say that the brake pads were locked-up on it.

Any help in solving this issue would be greatly appreciated as I'm nearly at my wits end with these non-rotating wheels.

[ShadedMJ]

Usual solutions include :
Making sure the rover is powered
Making sure the parking brake is off
Making sure the wheels are actually on
Making sure the cockpit is on the same grid as the wheel suspensions

I (ahem) ran over a similar topic recently.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/3192486635090096047/

[Capt Fuzzy]

Originally posted by ShadedMJ:

Usual solutions include :
Making sure the rover is powered
Making sure the parking brake is off
Making sure the wheels are actually on
Making sure the cockpit is on the same grid as the wheel suspensions

I (ahem) ran over a similar topic recently.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/3192486635090096047/

Thank you for the reply.
I am having a problem understanding your reply with regards to my 'trailer issues' though:

1. The rover is powered, however, this is not about the rover, it's about the trailer that I intend to pull with the rover.
2. Parking brake is off (on both)
3. How do I make sure that the trailer wheels are indeed "on"?
I assume you mean 'powered' in this case.
4. The cockpit is on the rover, not the trailer, so again, I fail to see what that has to do with the trailer wheels.

[Katitoff]

Just to be sure, the wheels are part of the suspension blocks? You haven't added then later as an actual wheel block?

[Capt Fuzzy]

Originally posted by Katitoff:

Just to be sure, the wheels are part of the suspension blocks? You haven't added then later as an actual wheel block?

Correct, they were not added later, but rather as one complete component.

[herrschaftg35]

Suspension blocks are built with the brakes off. You could go into the menu for them and uncheck the box for "brake".

[Capt Fuzzy]

Originally posted by herrschaftg35:

Suspension blocks are built with the brakes off. You could go into the menu for them and uncheck the box for "brake".

I have actually already done that, it seems to have no effect on my wheels not rotating.
In fact, the only box that I currently have checked is Air Shock.
I have also replaced the entire wheel/suspension block twice, still the wheels do not rotate.

[ShadedMJ]

Apologies, I missed the work 'trailer' while reading.
Assuming the rover or whatever (trying to pull the trailer) is actually working...

What are you using as a hinge or connecting point between them? Picture of trailer would probably help.

[Mojo]

Make a blueprint of it, post it on the workshop, then post the link to it here. That way it is easier for others to see if they can spot the issue.

[Capt Fuzzy]

Ok, this is just plain nuts, but I just decided to try replacing all four wheels on the trailer for a third time, and for whatever reason, they are now rotating!!
I still do not have a clue as to why they were stuck in the first place, but they seem to have 'magically' fixed themselves, as it were.
Thanks for the replies and suggestions on this, it was absolutely driving me nuts not being able to figure out why they wouldn't rotate.

Originally posted by ShadedMJ:

Apologies, I missed the work 'trailer' while reading.
Assuming the rover or whatever (trying to pull the trailer) is actually working...
What are you using as a hinge or connecting point between them? Picture of trailer would probably help.

I'm currently experimenting with the 'hitch' configuration, but what I have so far is a rotor, hinge and merge block on the rover, and a hinge and merge block on the trailer.
The hinge on the rover rotates right/left and the hinge on the trailer rotates up/down.
The rotor settings I am still working on, but from what I've read, it's basically used to allow for 'twisting' of the hitch on uneven surfaces.

[Capt Fuzzy]

Originally posted by Mojo:

Make a blueprint of it, post it on the workshop, then post the link to it here. That way it is easier for others to see if they can spot the issue.

It seems to have kinda fixed itself, for some odd reason, but I can still upload a blueprint if you like, it's not much to look at, it's really my first crack at making a trailer, so it's very basic.

[ShadedMJ]

Originally posted by Capt Fuzzy:

... The hinge on the rover rotates right/left and the hinge on the trailer rotates up/down.
The rotor settings I am still working on, but from what I've read, it's basically used to allow for 'twisting' of the hitch on uneven surfaces.

It's been a very long time since I used a trailer, but made one just before my previous reply. The rotor tried to keep its position, so I shut off the rotor and it worked like a hitch.

[herrschaftg35]

Rotor settings for a hitch will depend on the trailer. For larger trailers I normally set the force to zero. I increase the force settings for smaller trailers that bounce around too much and possibly rotation limits to keep them from flipping over.

[BlueBronco1]

[/quote]
I'm currently experimenting with the 'hitch' configuration, but what I have so far is a rotor, hinge and merge block on the rover, and a hinge and merge block on the trailer.
The hinge on the rover rotates right/left and the hinge on the trailer rotates up/down.
The rotor settings I am still working on, but from what I've read, it's basically used to allow for 'twisting' of the hitch on uneven surfaces. [/quote]

I recently made a trailer my self and i found if you add a rotor, hinge, hinge it works well.
Rotor on rover rolls the trailer, hinge up/down controls pitch, and the second hinge controls (yaw) side to side. All three axis of movement.

[Capt Fuzzy]

Originally posted by BlueBronco1:

Originally posted by Capt Fuzzy:

I'm currently experimenting with the 'hitch' configuration, but what I have so far is a rotor, hinge and merge block on the rover, and a hinge and merge block on the trailer.
The hinge on the rover rotates right/left and the hinge on the trailer rotates up/down.
The rotor settings I am still working on, but from what I've read, it's basically used to allow for 'twisting' of the hitch on uneven surfaces.

I recently made a trailer my self and i found if you add a rotor, hinge, hinge it works well.
Rotor on rover rolls the trailer, hinge up/down controls pitch, and the second hinge controls (yaw) side to side. All three axis of movement.

Thank you for the advice, I will try it and see what it does.
I was kind of thinking of going that route, basically using two hinges to make a universal joint, of sorts.

[Capt Fuzzy]

Originally posted by herrschaftg35:

Rotor settings for a hitch will depend on the trailer. For larger trailers I normally set the force to zero. I increase the force settings for smaller trailers that bounce around too much and possibly rotation limits to keep them from flipping over.

Thank you for the reply, I'll try it out, I am still in the 'experimentation' phase after all... lol