Toolbar actions missing after welding projection

[tiy]

This is just my rant, I guess. After building ship in creative, so I can build it in my survival world, I found out, actions on toolbars, on timer blocks, flight seat, etc. are missing... My only question is just why? Found a reddit discussion about the same thing. From two years ago. Is this considered a bug? Or just bad game design? It's really annoying to do it all over again. While it is possible for me to do it all over again, if I were to upload my creation on workshop - saying it was survival ready, it actually wouldn't be, because of this. All airlocks and other features will be broken, because of this.
I know about workaround - grouping these blocks, but now I have only important stuff shown in control panel. Everything else is hidden. I would have to add like 20 groups, which would have only one block in it...
Please tell me that there is some different solution to this...

[Dan2D3D]

Hi, the best would to use the Portal search tool to see if some participant already created the bug report and see what the SE Programmer replied, or create a new bug report and they will tell you.

Click "Submit Bug" on their Support Portal to have a SE Programmer testing the bug for you and be able to chat with you :

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc
(create "Bug report" or "Request help"(Private) or "Feedback"(Petition) on the Portal)

[Dan2D3D]

I will add :

My Blueprints work fine on the very first time I build the Bp but not when the cockpit get destoyed and I have to rebuild with projector = some actions don't follow on repair.

[Dan2D3D]

I found one report reaction marked as "Won't Fix" because the SE Programmers were not able to reproduce at that time (20 months ago) :

Vehicle toolbar icons missing after welding projection
https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/25466-vehicle-toolbar-icons-missing-after-welding-projection

That report is very old and the game is not the same today so I strongly recommend to create a new "Bug Report" on the Portal to have a SE Programmer testing this bug in the new game version.


EDIT
The reporter did not shared his Blueprint for testing so don't forget to give them a "bugged" one to test.

[tiy]

Hm, I already submitted it, as I found out the same one discussion and also one that wasn't responded by guy that created the topic, so it was closed.
And I probably already figured it out... lol
Still doing some testing, but it looks like, if projector was turned off and on at some point, all toolbars become messed up...
So, Imma delete that topic right away... (I should test before submitting I guess :) )

[Mechanical]

This has been around for ages, there is a toolbar saving and loading plugin if you're willing to use the space engineer's launcher. Then ether load the ship in a creative world (or admin mode in a survival world), save the ship's tool bar, and then load it into the correct control stations/remote blocks.

[Dan2D3D]

Indeed, i saw a lot of players creating discussions about this on the forums but not much report to the ones working on the game so probably not a high priority.

[Ronin Planetary Industries]

Originally posted by 2steps-fwd:

Please tell me that there is some different solution to this...

From my experience, the toolbars get messed up if you ever turn off the projection or move it when you are welding. So you want to construct everything in one session before any logging off or server reboots.

Save the cockpits (or control seats) for last, so that everything exists before welding it into existence.

As you stated, putting EVERYTHING on the toolbar into groups is the best way to get a reliable weld without missing stuff in the bar.

[carl.wear]

Doesn't the tab key hide the toolbar? Has anyone tried hiding and un-hiding it to see if that does anything.

[Blueberry Muffins!]

One thing: are you certain the blueprint in the rebuild projector is the same one you used to build the cockpit in the first place? My ship blueprints tend to include the ship with its own separate (and not so exposed) rebuild projector, into which I then have to paste the ship blueprint I just created and then re-blueprint the ship. When I forget to do the re-blueprint with updated rebuild blueprprints and then screw up as I generally do rather sooner than later, much cursing ensues. But for me, it's basically always because I forgot to update the blueprint in the rebuild projector.