Space Engineers

Space Engineers

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Domaorn Mar 10, 2024 @ 6:44am
my new vid card
ive gone from a 1050ti to a 3060 ti will this be a bit overkill for a game like this? Ark Ascended im barely getting 50fps on the best of situations im excited to have a decent card but no clue how the vid settings in the game will go if i decide to crank them up
thanks
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Dan2D3D  [developer] Mar 10, 2024 @ 6:52am 
Hi, I have noticed players reporting problems with RTX recently, they have temp freezes on extreme graphic settings and I recommended all to contact the SE programmers so they can have a look at their problems and be able to work on a fix asap.

That said, RTX 3060 ti should be much better but sometime game Devs must update their game to run with the new NVIDIA Driver.

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I can share my setup for you to have something compare with your RTX :

Steam and game installed on the C: Drive (SSD)
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I play on Default Medium Graphic settings 70 FOV

- Motherboard ASUS Prime B660M-A D4
- 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12400 2.50 GHz 6 cores
- 16 GB RAM (2X8)
- 1T SSD
- Windows 11
- GTX Strix 1050 Ti Driver Date: 12 5 2022 (not up to date)
- One Monitor 1680 X 1050 60Hz
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Mar 10, 2024 @ 6:59am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Mar 10, 2024 @ 6:57am 
I forgot to specify :

I have a better in-game Perfo on Default Medium graphic setting, it stutter a bit over that.
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The game open and world save load in 3 seconds with the PC specs I have shared in my previous post.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Mar 10, 2024 @ 6:58am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Mar 10, 2024 @ 7:34am 
Oh! Also a brand new player reported not able to start the game with RTX in WIndows 10 and he fixed by enabling compatibility mode with Windows 7.

= May be related to Win7 updated to Win10 ??
ostlandr Mar 10, 2024 @ 8:43am 
Is a 3060 Ti overkill for SE? Short answer, yes-depending on how into high end graphics you are.
But if you can afford it, definitely go for the 3000 series card for "future proofing."

I updated from my actually amazing GTX 1050 Ti to a RTX 2060 Super 12 GB so I could play BG3. (Secondarily, for ray tracing etc.) The 1050 was the core of my "most bang for the buck" build that turned a refurbished office PC into a very capable 1080p gaming rig. Ran SE no issues.

I'm running 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz, the native settings for my LG Full HD monitor. I started PC gaming in the early '90s, when the pixels were the size of cigarette packs, so I don't see the need for higher def or higher FPS. :-) Even though I have VSYNC on and the default refresh rate at 60 Hz in Windows 10, the FPS monitor is showing 120 in SE. Yeah, when I am suffering the Wrath of Clang, the FPS does drop, but never under 30, and then only until things settle down.

MSI made a 12 GB version of the 2060 Super, instead of the standard 8 GB of VRAM, which is what I managed to snag on Amazon. This should save you quite a bit of money over the 3000 series card.
The 2000 series cards should handle 1440p at the monitor's native refresh rate with zero issues. I just can't grok the need for 4K resolution myself, but if that's what you're into, then def go for the 3000 series.

As with most games, I start with letting NVIDIA GeForce Experience optimize the game. Then I take the top graphics settings back a notch. In SE, it specifically warns of performance impacts from setting shadow quality or model quality to Extreme, so I knocked them back to high.

Here are my system specs if you're curious:

Dell Optiplex 9020 (refurbished)

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

Intel Core i7-4790 quad core CPU @ 3.60 GHz. (Turbo Boost will push this to just under 4 GHz on demand.) Can use Hyperthreading to simulate an 8 core. Note that the Optiplex 9020 MOBO won't support overclocking, so don't waste the money on the K version of the processor, especially since it overclocks itself.

Thermaltake SMART 600W ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V 80 Plus Certified Active PFC Power Supply

32GB Kingston 1600 MHz DDR3 RAM

PNY CS900 1TB 3D NAND 2.5" SATA III Internal SSD

NVIDIA (MSI) GeForce RTX 2060 Super, 12GB DDR6 VRAM. Auto overclock with MSI Afterburner

Noctua CPU and case fans (OEM Dell fans are noisy.) Bought an upgraded Noctua CPU cooler, but it won't mate up to this antique and probably proprietary Dell MOBO.

ASUS E-Green M Disc multidrive (CD/DVD R/W)

Even with the 1050 Ti, this rig ran circles around certain overpriced "gaming PCs" that are long on RGB and fancy cases,but give you an antique CPU with integrated graphics and no discrete GPU.
If I upgrade my case for better cooling, the only original part will be the MOBO itself. Like my Granddad's hammer, used to belong to his great-great-Grandfather. In that time, it'd had the handle replaced seventeen times, and the head twice. ;-)

But I am actually fond of the case. It is a fellow retired refugee from a Cubicle Farm, so we're soul brothers. Actually thinking of fabricating a duct outside the back of the case to mount a BIG exhaust fan.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Mar 10, 2024 @ 8:53am 
I just verified in stores where I live and it's between $400 to $600 for RTX 3060 Ti

It's not cheap and a bit too high price in my opinion, you should buy cheaper GPU and wait for a better deal on RTX.

My old GTX 1050 Ti do a good Jod for what I need so far and I got it for $200.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Mar 10, 2024 @ 8:54am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Mar 10, 2024 @ 9:17am 
I will add :

For me, it's more about the price and what is specified on the Store page.
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I try to buy a good GPU when on sale and no more than $200 to $300.

on SE Store page =

RECOMMENDED:
Processor: Intel Quad Core i7 @ 4.5 GHz or higher (or AMD equivalent)
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: Geforce 1070 GTX / Radeon RX Vega 56 or higher

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I have to change the GPU every 5 years anyway and that is why I prefer to buy on sale at lower price.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Mar 10, 2024 @ 9:24am
Jack Schitt Mar 10, 2024 @ 10:04am 
If your new card is the RTX version that card does Ray Tracing which is pretty awesome for the games that do it / have that feature but this game does not and will not have Ray Tracing unless they update the game engine and re-create the game on the new engine.

I believe I remember reading some players that had RTX cards had some issues with those cards because of that. I hope I'm wrong. Otherwise that card should run this game easily with the graphics settings maxed out.

I'm still running a 1050Ti and I get an average of 110 fps with settings on medium. I've tried to bump settings up a little. Performance drops when I do that.
Last edited by Jack Schitt; Mar 10, 2024 @ 10:05am
herrschaftg35 Mar 10, 2024 @ 10:46am 
There is no such thing as "overkill", better to have a good card that is barely working verse a mediocre card that is over-working. Future games will continue to increase demand on the hardware.

My 2080 ti works well with the game with the graphics set to "high". FPS drops slightly when I set the graphics to "extreme" on some saves.
Domaorn Mar 10, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
my bestie in Australia got a 4070 ti so he mailed me his 3060 ti so got it going so far on medium setting no stutter... ive 32mb ram, a ssd hhd with games only installed a ssd hhd for win 10 so far so good... my main problem with the 1050 ti was i play mods and when assert or such spawns in it frroze.. same when the large grids hit the ground at high altitude lol so far nada on that im happy woot woot
Domaorn Mar 10, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
and thanks for the info !!!!!!!
BIV Mar 10, 2024 @ 1:18pm 
I've been warned off buying any new high end stuff for a while as the political rubbish between the US and China and the rest is skimming the higher quality raw materials and tech companies are selling sub-standard boards and chips etc as top o range because they can.
Got this from my IT guy that builds my setups for me and I've never known him to turn away honest money. Just saying is all.
glabifrons Mar 10, 2024 @ 6:44pm 
That card will be awesome for SE, even at 4k.
I'm using a GTX 1660 6GB and getting 54-80fps at 4k with mostly medium settings, low quality shadows, and high quality models (adds quite a bit of depth to a lot of the blocks in the game).

Note that the CPU is more likely to be a limiting factor, depending on the complexity of the environment (others can explain better than I can on that). I used to run a GTX 950 2GB for years at 1080p.
My CPU is an i7-4790K (stock clocks) with 32GB of DDR3-2400 RAM. I only had simulation-speed slow down a couple times in some really intense battles (I don't do that much as I play solo, one of those was at the end of one of the scenarios).
I'm not sure if single-thread performance or number of threads matters more for this game.
Slapping a super-awesome video card on a potato will have mixed results. More resolution, higher frame-rates, more effects requires heavier lifting from your CPU and system bus to keep up. If they can't then you will have a new bottle-neck elsewhere in the chain.
Blueberry Muffins! Mar 11, 2024 @ 12:41pm 
My card's about a 3060 equivalent, one cut below the '60 Ti, and I can tweak *up* from the "high" presets, I play stock, not experimental, with all view ranges maxed, anisotropy turned up, grass density turned up, At those settings it easily maintains 60fps but can't always hit 120, that's fine by me, depending on what you're after your card might be just exactly right, and anyway I wouldn't call it "overkill", I can see the difference in the shadows between the medium and high presets and while I wouldn't mind having to turn it down, it doesn't really affect gameplay, I like it enough at the higher settings that I'll just wear headphones and let the fans run loud as they want.

Your cpu and memory subsystem quality will start mattering as your builds progress, impressive SE builds depend on that, pretty sure the GPU is irrelevant to that part.
The Klang Is Good Mar 11, 2024 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by Blueberry Muffins!:
Your cpu and memory subsystem quality will start mattering as your builds progress, impressive SE builds depend on that, pretty sure the GPU is irrelevant to that part.
Yeah, I have exactly this problem on one of my worlds where I'm building 100K PCU space station.. My Ryzen 2600 can't handle it very well: sim speed is good but fps is mostly 35ish and render cpu load constantly near 100%. It doesn't matter much if graphics are set to high or low, roughly the same fps. Gpu (rx 6600) seems to be underutilized.
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