Pirate Bases Spawning on Planets?

[Hydraclone]

Do pirate bases spawn on planets?
I've been on my current world for quite some time, and have explored quite a bit of it, and have seen nothing as of yet.

[Aro]

The ground bases don't.
They are more like pre-placed buildings for certain scenarios, you can grab their blueprint and paste them in.

[Hydraclone]

Will they still spawn in space?

[Twelve]

Originally posted by TheDeadlyPianist:

Will they still spawn in space?

there are no pirate bases in space, there is only that pirate carrier wich is kinda disabled atm becuase you need to enable cargo ships to have that appear.

you do get stations and ships in space if you turn encounters on but there not owned by piratres.

you can make your own tho like aro said just change the ownership to space pirates, if you put an antnna on it then it will spawn drones if you have them enabled.

[Aro]

The pirate stations show as owned by pirates, one of the scenarios I was on had one fairly close to a planet.
Would have to check but am quite positive they had the space pirate tag.

[Defektiv]

They spawn in fixed locations on the planets in the easy scenario starts. They spawn randomly in space. And pirate bases absolutely spawn in space.. sometimes multiple ones right next to each other.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=589586001

[Phade]

Originally posted by Twelve:

Originally posted by TheDeadlyPianist:

Will they still spawn in space?

there are no pirate bases in space, there is only that pirate carrier wich is kinda disabled atm becuase you need to enable cargo ships to have that appear.

you do get stations and ships in space if you turn encounters on but there not owned by piratres.

you can make your own tho like aro said just change the ownership to space pirates, if you put an antnna on it then it will spawn drones if you have them enabled.

what are you talking about? There has always been pirate bases in space. they were added before the drone ships.

[Hydraclone]

So just to clarify, will they spawn in space if planets are enabled?
I know cargo ships don't, and they won't until they sort out some kind of path finding, but I really want pirates so all my defences aren't for nothing.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Originally posted by TheDeadlyPianist:

So just to clarify, will they spawn in space if planets are enabled?
I know cargo ships don't, and they won't until they sort out some kind of path finding, but I really want pirates so all my defences aren't for nothing.

Yep they defo spawn in space on planet scenarios if you have drones and random encounters on. They wont really attack a station though, unless theyhappen to spawn close enough to it. In all my time on SE only happened once to me. The rest of the time i had to go looking for them :)

PS if you arent seeing any stick your view distance up. Had mine on 10k and looked for hours....nothing. Turned it up to 50k and there were 4 on my hud when i loaded in ;)

[Hydraclone]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

Originally posted by TheDeadlyPianist:

So just to clarify, will they spawn in space if planets are enabled?
I know cargo ships don't, and they won't until they sort out some kind of path finding, but I really want pirates so all my defences aren't for nothing.

Yep they defo spawn in space on planet scenarios if you have drones and random encounters on. They wont really attack a station though, unless theyhappen to spawn close enough to it. In all my time on SE only happened once to me. The rest of the time i had to go looking for them :)

PS if you arent seeing any stick your view distance up. Had mine on 10k and looked for hours....nothing. Turned it up to 50k and there were 4 on my hud when i loaded in ;)

Thank you very much. :)

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Phade:

Originally posted by Twelve:

there are no pirate bases in space, there is only that pirate carrier wich is kinda disabled atm becuase you need to enable cargo ships to have that appear.

you do get stations and ships in space if you turn encounters on but there not owned by piratres.

you can make your own tho like aro said just change the ownership to space pirates, if you put an antnna on it then it will spawn drones if you have them enabled.

what are you talking about? There has always been pirate bases in space. they were added before the drone ships.

ive literally never seen one...

[casualsailor]

Originally posted by Twelve:

Originally posted by TheDeadlyPianist:

Will they still spawn in space?

there are no pirate bases in space, there is only that pirate carrier wich is kinda disabled atm becuase you need to enable cargo ships to have that appear.

you do get stations and ships in space if you turn encounters on but there not owned by piratres.

you can make your own tho like aro said just change the ownership to space pirates, if you put an antnna on it then it will spawn drones if you have them enabled.

I don't think this is still true. If you check "Enable Drones" SPRT base ships will appear in space even on the Star System and Habital planet maps. They spawn in when you get close and despawn when you move away. I've tested this recently. You'll see their red beacons from about 20km and when you get within about 13km they will start spawning the drone ships that come out to attack you.

But they definitely despawn when you move away. I used Space Master to try to get a look at them and could not find them when I returned to base. But when I went back to the wp I set when first seeing them, SM was able to show me two staionary ship/bases labled SPRT Mining Base "Beware Stay Away"

The drones do not keep coming and will turn away after a while and despawn with their base ship.

Edit: Unarmed cargo ships have been disabled since planets were released. Random Encounters will spawn in unpowered ships to find, but they despawn when you leave their area just like the pirate bases.

Edit 2: All of this is in space and a good distance away from planets, 5000km was the closest I saw them to a planet. As others have said the planet and orbital bases are part of Easy Start (planet) scenarios and are not present on Star System or Habital Planet starts.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by casualsailor:

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yeah this actually prompted a 'wtf?' so i did some googling,
acording to the wiki its not random encouters that spawn the pirate space bases source: http://spaceengineers.wikia.com/wiki/Random_Encounters

i cant find anything there that tells me difinatively what option does enable them, i always play with drones on and have never seen a base in space so either its luck of the draw or its cargo ships maybe?

do others get space bases with just drones enabled?? obv cargo ships have been greyed out for a while now so if people are getting space bases on new games then i have no idea..

[Defektiv]

Originally posted by Twelve:

Originally posted by casualsailor:

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yeah this actually prompted a 'wtf?' so i did some googling,
acording to the wiki its not random encouters that spawn the pirate space bases source: http://spaceengineers.wikia.com/wiki/Random_Encounters

i cant find anything there that tells me difinatively what option does enable them, i always play with drones on and have never seen a base in space so either its luck of the draw or its cargo ships maybe?

do others get space bases with just drones enabled?? obv cargo ships have been greyed out for a while now so if people are getting space bases on new games then i have no idea..

Drones is the setting for all pirate encounters. It's just that the bases on planets are fixed and only spawn on the easy scenarios. Cargo ships is an entirely different mechanic that spawns ships and send them flying through space nearby you. That one got disabled because obviously having cargo ships spawn and fly near the player when they are anywhere near a planet would cause them to continually get caught in its gravity and pummel the surface.

There is a third option, Random Encounters. This one enables the spawning of derelict ships/stations throughout the universe. I'm messing with the Exploration Enhancement mod right now and the encounters for it are very similar to the Random Encounters mechanic. And the frequency of those events in that mod work off the Asteroid Density setting under the world generator options when you first create a new save. The higher the density setting, the more things spawn.

I don't know if Drones share the same spawn logic as Random Encounters. But if they do, the density setting may also have some influence on how often they spawn.

Also, a little speculation.. but if the setting is for "Drones" and all we have is one enemy faction "Space Pirates", it almost sounds like they intend to add more factions at some point and not just have "pirates" be the enemy in that setting.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Defektiv:

Originally posted by Twelve:

yeah this actually prompted a 'wtf?' so i did some googling,
acording to the wiki its not random encouters that spawn the pirate space bases source: http://spaceengineers.wikia.com/wiki/Random_Encounters

i cant find anything there that tells me difinatively what option does enable them, i always play with drones on and have never seen a base in space so either its luck of the draw or its cargo ships maybe?

do others get space bases with just drones enabled?? obv cargo ships have been greyed out for a while now so if people are getting space bases on new games then i have no idea..

Drones is the setting for all pirate encounters. It's just that the bases on planets are fixed and only spawn on the easy scenarios. Cargo ships is an entirely different mechanic that spawns ships and send them flying through space nearby you. That one got disabled because obviously having cargo ships spawn and fly near the player when they are anywhere near a planet would cause them to continually get caught in its gravity and pummel the surface.

There is a third option, Random Encounters. This one enables the spawning of derelict ships/stations throughout the universe. I'm messing with the Exploration Enhancement mod right now and the encounters for it are very similar to the Random Encounters mechanic. And the frequency of those events in that mod work off the Asteroid Density setting under the world generator options when you first create a new save. The higher the density setting, the more things spawn.

I don't know if Drones share the same spawn logic as Random Encounters. But if they do, the density setting may also have some influence on how often they spawn.

Also, a little speculation.. but if the setting is for "Drones" and all we have is one enemy faction "Space Pirates", it almost sounds like they intend to add more factions at some point and not just have "pirates" be the enemy in that setting.

i get the planet ones, i did deliberately use the word 'space' in front of the word 'base' in my last post for that reason ; )
i dunno at this point, im having trouble believeing the amount of hours i play with drones on and i havent seen a single base in space.. to the point i obviously forgot they were even in the game.

now i really want to know how to turn them on so i have things to kill when get bored..

[F-16D Block-60 FemboiDILF]

There's a third and fourth faction, The Great Space Tarantula, and First Colonists. I've yet to find anything in the tarantula faction, but I assume dogs and spiders are in it.