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Tusen2KxX Mar 29, 2016 @ 12:59pm
KM to M
How do I switch it from KM back to M.. Is it part of the update or what, I prefer M better...
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Karmaterrorᵁᴷ Mar 29, 2016 @ 1:01pm 
Its KPH on a planet surface or in atmo. Then M/S in space, it swaps automaticly :)
Tusen2KxX Mar 29, 2016 @ 1:01pm 
No I mean Distance measuring.
Karmaterrorᵁᴷ Mar 29, 2016 @ 1:07pm 
Ohhh sry...i didnt realise it had changed. Oh wait i know what ya mean now.... when it says 1.5KM instead of 1500m. I can sorta get why, if you have a lot of hud icons could help with clutter a lil. Maybe a switch would be good to change it :)
Last edited by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ; Mar 29, 2016 @ 1:08pm
Tusen2KxX Mar 29, 2016 @ 1:20pm 
Exactly, did they recently change it?
MysticMalevolence Mar 29, 2016 @ 2:27pm 
Last I checked it's Km/h when the vehicle has wheels.
casualsailor Mar 29, 2016 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Tusen 2K15:
Exactly, did they recently change it?

Yes. It changed in the last couple of weeks.
SpetS Mar 29, 2016 @ 4:59pm 
why they changfed it? gosh.... ¬¬
plaYer2k Mar 30, 2016 @ 6:43am 
Well yeah i have to remind people how important capitilization is once gain and no i still dont care if any is whining how pedantic i am :-)

There is a very important difference between upper and lower case characters.

KM, M, H do not refer to kilometer, meter and hour at all. The proper and only correct units (and prefixes) are km, m and h.

There is no such prefix as K and it stead is k. The meter got m and no M. A second got s and not S. Likewise the hour got h and not H.

Thus forms like these are wrong (in the context of velocity or distance):
MS
M/S
M/s
m/S
Km
KM
KM/H
KPH

The reason for that is rather simple. It is a standard and lower as well as upper case chars often got different meanings.
The best example here is the upper case K which actually stands for the unit kelvin and either is the temperature relative to absolute zero with steps like the celsius scale or it is a temperature difference between two celsius values (the difference between 12°C and 22°C is 10K and not 10°C when being technically correct)


I know people are lazy. Some are ven so terribly lazy that even though they know they do things wrong they simply dont care and say "but context" (which works 90% of the time when you use utterly trivial cases but quickly fall apart once you use more complex situations with units like K kg s² / m)


So to convert from km to m and from m to km we use the wonders of SI prefixes which are based around 10 and no arbitrary 3, 12, 16, 18, 21 and whatever other multiplier the antiquated variants utilize.
We know that the prefix k stands for a multiplier of 1000.
If you didnt know, this small article helps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix
Thus 1 km = 1 000 m and 1.5 km = 1.5 * 1 000 m = 1 500 m.
If you had 1 700 m and wanted to get it in km you had to divide by 1000 and thus get 1.7 km.

Thus that kind of math should be the easiest kind. You multiply by a 10er based value and actually shift the decimal mark to the right.


If anyone comes along having an issue with the conversion from km/h to m/s, it is equally simple.
1 km / h = 1 000 m / 60 min = 1 000 m / 3 600 s = 1 / 3.6 * m / s
or
1 m / s = 3.6 km/h


I hope that clears up some confusion.
Last edited by plaYer2k; Mar 30, 2016 @ 10:46am
DanteVento Mar 30, 2016 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by plaYer2k:
*snip*

Thus forms like these are wrong (in the context of velocity or distance):
MS
M/S
M/s
m/s
Km
KM
KM/H
KPH

*snip*

Thus that kind of math should be the easiest kind. You multiply by a 10er based value and actually shift the comma to the right.


If anyone comes along having an issue with the conversion from km/h to m/s, it is equally simple.
1 km / h = 1 000 m / 60 min = 1 000 m / 3 600 s = 1 / 3.6 * m / s
or
1 m / s = 3.6 km/h


I hope that clears up some confusion.

*sarcasm*

First, m/s is a valid velocity. You even use it yourself. (I think you were trying for m/S, but I can only assume.)

Second, you need to be consistent with the symbols you use. You suggest moving the comma, yet you never used it yourself. Either your numbers are wrong or you should have said "decimal point." I know it's a regional thing. Different places do things differently but you should at least be consistent.

*/sarcasm*

Sorry, I just had to do it. The only reason there was confusion in this post was because the OP left out important contextual information and not because they used improper abbreviations. Sadly, I think you wasted your perfectly good rant. My condolences.

Back to the topic.

I thought this kicked on only for really far objects. It makes sense when you're talking about being 300 million meters from an object. Even 10 thousand meters is better expressed 10km. But within only a few thousand meters I prefer it in plain old meters. I'll need to go test this all out now. Also, I wonder if they can add it as an option so you can select when it changes over. In the game options not the world options.
Zanzikahn Mar 30, 2016 @ 10:22am 
kilometer is just a step higher than meter... Whatever the number, multiply by 1000 and you will know the meter... They are one in the same, just km allows for simpler display of large numbers.
ummmm.....just move the dcimal place yourself? Its not difficult math....
plaYer2k Mar 30, 2016 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Silvak Lance:
First, m/s is a valid velocity. [...] (I think you were trying for m/S, but I can only assume.)

[..] You suggest moving the comma, yet you never used it yourself. Either your numbers are wrong or you should have said "decimal point." I know it's a regional thing. Different places do things differently
Heh indeed, i corrected my reply to give a proper non-confusing input :-)

I indeed intended to use another example with like S for "seconds" which actually is siemens.

The comma also is the decimal mark here so you guessed correct twice.

Originally posted by Silvak Lance:
I think you wasted your perfectly good rant.
Dont worry, that was no rant at all. It is merely an attempt to tell people what the correct way for these units is other than they use them while hoping that it improves the situation.
Maybe a few learn something new because they simply arent aware of the correct forms.

Originally posted by Silvak Lance:
Even 10 thousand meters is better expressed 10km. But within only a few thousand meters I prefer it in plain old meters.
Well subjective preferences. I actually prefer 1.2 km over 1 200 m. Though i also dont care much about it being one way or another as both mean the same.

Also as there is little, if not even none at all, practical difference between 1 200 m, 1 205 m and 1 249 m for flying a ship around, i dont see much of a need to actually change it.

Though i agree that having a setting for the prefix and rounding rules would be pretty neat.
So one could apply rules like:
- round to 1, 2 or 3 digits past the decimal mark
- use the next bigger prefix with a value above 1 000, 2 000, 10 000 or 100 000 etc.

The more porper customization there is the better.
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