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Xorloth Apr 30, 2023 @ 9:17am
Keep horizontal alignment while jetpacking?
Hi!

It's frustrating to fly with the jetpack on planets (and in space) when you constantly have to adjust your roll (Q and E) to align with the horizon. This causes nausea for me.
This is a constant issue when building on a planet. Also in space but the effect is a bit less there since it's so empty.

I understand that this is due to 6DOF but I would prefer if there was an option to toggle so the player always would try to align with the horizon automatically.

In space you would have to set a virtual horizon, with a hotkey, so you always face the ship you are building, the same way.


Are there any mods for this? And what's your opinions?
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Turning off the jetpack (X) will cause your character to align with gravity. If you briefly cycle the jetpack off and on, you will align. If not being aligned to the horizon gives you motion sickness then you are an extreme case.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Apr 30, 2023 @ 10:40am 
Hi, me too use Ronin's solution so to tap the X key Off/On but we can also use other Engineer solutions like Scaffolding and Welder/Grinder ship.
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Xorloth Apr 30, 2023 @ 10:58am 
Yup I intended to post a feature suggestion but wanted to check here first.

Thanks for the suggestion with X. I'll try it next time, but I rather enable a setting that handles this automatically.

The horizon is not the problem but circling around ships and structures in a random position all the time is. That's why I'm affected in space also. Turning down FOV to 50 helps but obviously shrinks the view quite a lot.

SE is the only game that causes nausea for me.
AntsArcade Apr 30, 2023 @ 12:24pm 
I don't get motion sickness like you, but i would love this option as well.

You can use the arrow left and right keys to rotate your engineer without adjusting roll. it's the best option i've got for vanilla rotating while aligned.
Rox Apr 30, 2023 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by Zefirth:
... SE is the only game that causes nausea for me.

From some of the posts here on the Steam forums, it appears to cause nausea for quite a number of people, but not necessarily for the same reasons :D
Spaceman Spiff Apr 30, 2023 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Ronin Planetary Industries (RPI):
Turning off the jetpack (X) will cause your character to align with gravity. If you briefly cycle the jetpack off and on, you will align.
Exactly! Well said. A very brief off/on cycle will align the character with the horizon. I do it all the time.
Xorloth Apr 30, 2023 @ 1:43pm 
I tried double tapping X but it's not really what I'm looking for. It's also correcting your pitch and that's unnecessary since you are in control of that with your mouse anyways.

Take Subnautica for example. Those controls are perfect. Okay it doesn't have 6DOF but still those movement adjustments for the player is what I'm looking for. That game automatically aligns the roll to the horizon.
Plus it has a deadzone, so if you are looking straight down towards the center of the earth then it won't spin you around. Same if you look straight up.
Last edited by Xorloth; Apr 30, 2023 @ 1:48pm
Capt Fuzzy Apr 30, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
While I don't, personally, have any kind of motion sickness, except for trying to read while in a moving vehicle, I do think this is an awesome idea for the devs to look into.
I cannot read anything while in a car or on a train, I get nauseated within just a few minutes, but otherwise, I have no experience with motion sickness, but I would also find this very useful as constantly readjusting my character's attitude while building something is a bit of a pain to say the least...
Kimo Apr 30, 2023 @ 9:02pm 
I got in the habit to quickly push q/e while panning with the mouse.

But then I also quickly get "out of the tapping beat", then the brain gets confused, start to mix up q/a and e/d keys,

Then I need to hold still to reconfig my brain with the actual position and reaarange myself.

This interupts my workflow every now and then.
To me, not having to adjust my roll, would be a HUGE QoL improvement.

On the other hand, my brain feels thrilled sometimes, like a quick trip. The moment others get motion sickness I guess...
Swerve May 1, 2023 @ 12:34am 
If you're doing fine movements, just tap JP On/Off quickly to align with gravity, and you'll only fall a meter or so.

In atmo when moving fast, you can frog hop by launching yourself and then turning your JP off, letting momentum do the trick.

In Zero G, use your JP for momentum, disable dampeners while you drift and align to your destination, then turn them on just before a burn in the direction you're now facing...you should only need to use Q/E when you're making your final approach.

^ Same concept for ships, just make sure you know your corners, and how well your ship maneuvers in every direction before. (Or test on creative mode)
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