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imWACCo Dec 10, 2022 @ 4:08pm
Suicide for profit? Mining, waypoints, and respawn
I just found my last ore, Pl. Down side is that it's 70km away. And if I straight line it, I'm in gravity.

If I can find a way for a ship to fly a path/way-points.... I could:
1) send the ship with a survival kit
2) do some work at my base
3) kill myself
4) re-spawn at the ship's survival kit
5) do the mining there
6) send the ship back
7) kill myself
8) re-spawn at base

Then I don't have a half hour ride on the ship. That's a BIG PROFIT for me!
I know I've seen on a video a way to make paths for patrolling.
Yes, I know that I'll have to put some good tools on the ship, and replace then before I send it back. Or use a drill ship

Anyone done this? I'm rather a n00b, is there something I'm not seeing? Will my ship get ???km away from me and just die? Do asteroids spawn random... as in, will the path I lay stay clear?
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imWACCo Dec 10, 2022 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by FilipinoFOX:
public survival server
3 or more waypoints.
Put a Beacon on it

Right now, I'm only playing solo. Damn Linux bug, no good way to get on-line
I was thinking a lot more than that, keep well clear of asteroids
Good idea. Like I said, I'm a n00b, I've not used beacons before
SpinzACE Dec 11, 2022 @ 1:06am 
I think you need to put the ship in patrol or circle something, rather than one way. Otherwise the ship stops once it’s a certain distance from you.

I forget the exact settings for it. It’s details about grids moving for a period of time once they’re beyond a certain distance from a player.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 11, 2022 @ 1:45am 
Hi, yes it's a thing we can do so go for it !

As a creative player I use the Admin menu to enable creative and teleport my character because the survival is way too slow for me = I want to create not to explore ;)

BUT
It's the game,
-> we have to engineer a solution so what will you do to resolve this problem ?

Note
The ores are at the same GPS coords in all the custom worlds, it's always the same world on creating new.
+
There are better areas to play at, some are easy, medium and hard.
=
You will know the best places at some point so keep exploring.

I recommend to try Titan start next time, because all ores - 1 over there and the ore detector block is not needed.


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I give you one Rich ore spot :

Earth Moon ice Pole next to "Dark side" edge
> > Look for yellow'sh spots on the flat terrain over there =

GPS:Moon All Ores:13504.02:144348.12:-109074.79:#FF758BF1:

> Right on top of that ^ Moon Rich ore spot =

GPS:Uranium - Ice:9541.72:175177.81:-110979.69:

Just select the complete GPS line and copy/paste in-game to use and find this area.
(Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V in LCD will add to GPS Tab auto but hidden)
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 11, 2022 @ 3:42am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 11, 2022 @ 1:57am 
I forgot to specify :

Admin menu = Alt+F10

1 - Enable creative from the admin menu.
2 - Use spectator mode F8 to go/fly where you want to.
3 - Hit Ctrl+Spacebar to teleport your character at the Spectator position.

-> we also can teleport while in a ship seat = the ship and you will teleport in same time.


Note
Rich ore spots = Where all ores can be found close to each other.



EDIT
Spectator Keys :

F8 Enter spectator mode
Ctrl+Space teleports player to spectator position
Shift + scroll wheel changes the speed of the spectator camera
Ctrl + Scroll Wheel changes the pitch, yaw and roll speed
Holding shift increases the speed as if you were 'sprinting'
F6 Exit spectator mode
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 11, 2022 @ 2:03am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 11, 2022 @ 2:24am 
+ this can help you a lot at finding a good Engineer solution :

You may want to watch this video of a player trying to find the solution on making a automatic Cargo Drone and succeed :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCgou-HMmug

EDIT
DON'T USE HYDRO Thruster with autopilot for Drone because they are bugged at the moment, so use Atmos or Ion thrusters with autopilot for now.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 11, 2022 @ 2:27am
Rox Dec 11, 2022 @ 2:36am 
Originally posted by Dan2D3D:
... DON'T USE HYDRO Thruster with autopilot for Drone because they are bugged at the moment ...

I've missed that memo, could you clarify and explain the detail of the bug effect or link to somewhere it is covered please ?
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 11, 2022 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by Rox:
Originally posted by Dan2D3D:
... DON'T USE HYDRO Thruster with autopilot for Drone because they are bugged at the moment ...

I've missed that memo, could you clarify and explain the detail of the bug effect or link to somewhere it is covered please ?


The Hydro thrusters don't* slowdown to 0m/s on GPS coords anymore, so we have to use Atmos and Ion thrusters till it's fixed.

Edit
Sorry correction -> down = don't* slowdown

Edit 2
The first player reporting on Steam where I helped testing to find the STR :
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/3589960830800054707/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/1/3589961352685915147/
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 11, 2022 @ 3:31am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 11, 2022 @ 2:47am 
I will add :

There are a lot of bugs with the autopilot atm (reported on the Portal) and the SE team told me it should be fixed in the next game update.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2896591427

Discussion link :
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/1/3710432845020911943/?ctp=2
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 11, 2022 @ 4:04am
Pzk. Ruby Dec 11, 2022 @ 4:12am 
Definitely one of the most unique discussion headers I've scrolled by
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 11, 2022 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Pzk. Ruby:
Definitely one of the most unique discussion headers I've scrolled by

It's not something we usually see, that is for sure but it is available in SE and can be more limited depending on the world advanced settings.

It's a thing I always do when I go survival, hit the backspace key to kill my character and respawn at another area.
-> If we play with "Auto-respawn" disabled, we can use the Medic Rooms as "teleport" system.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 11, 2022 @ 6:05am
Sprocket66 Dec 11, 2022 @ 7:26pm 
Ah, the old backspace teleport ploy.
imWACCo Dec 12, 2022 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Pzk. Ruby:
Definitely one of the most unique discussion headers I've scrolled by
This tread is brought to you by MASH the movie

Sorry that I've not been active in the tread, my main system* fell over, lost half my RAM, one monitor, and smelled capacitor electrolytic. Thank the gods I have a few old laptops around here. Typing on a 2009 MacBook Pro with Linux Mint (only power brick I could fine)


*Dell Precision Workstation
Last edited by imWACCo; Dec 12, 2022 @ 5:11pm
Alshain Dec 12, 2022 @ 5:28pm 
I'm curious why you would do this instead of just building a camera into your ship? Your already putting a remote in there to follow waypoint. Send your ship off, control it remotely and do some mining, send it back. No suicide, all from the comfort of your base.

Since it's 70km away you will need to build an antenna relay at least 20km closer, but that still seems the better option. Just find an asteroid within 50km of your destination (technically you don't even need an asteroid), put a tower of armor, a battery, an antenna and enough solar panels. Set the antenna range to max.
Last edited by Alshain; Dec 12, 2022 @ 5:43pm
Alshain Dec 12, 2022 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by Dan2D3D:
Originally posted by Rox:

I've missed that memo, could you clarify and explain the detail of the bug effect or link to somewhere it is covered please ?


The Hydro thrusters don't* slowdown to 0m/s on GPS coords anymore, so we have to use Atmos and Ion thrusters till it's fixed.

Edit
Sorry correction -> down = don't* slowdown

Edit 2
The first player reporting on Steam where I helped testing to find the STR :
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/3589960830800054707/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/1/3589961352685915147/

I've found it works if you set a 35m/s speed limit. It takes it longer to get anywhere but since your not sitting it cockpit, that hardly matters. I wouldn't have it do any precision flying, but if you just have it fly within 1km of your base and then guide it in manually, it works just fine.
Last edited by Alshain; Dec 12, 2022 @ 6:02pm
imWACCo Dec 12, 2022 @ 6:40pm 
Originally posted by Alshain:
instead of just building a camera into your ship?

Because I'm a n00b. You're saying that I can remote control a ship? So, send drill ship on a one way path. When it gets there, I can take control of it somehow, to do the mining. Then have it go back? 0.o
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