remote controll not working with laser antenna

[Tekomi Nakama☭]

so i'm trying to build a small scout ship for my survival game , i wan't to remote controll it from my ship but i'm not able to control the block from my ship both laser antenas are connected to each other the other ship has all it needs , but somehow i am not allowed to control the remote block but if i place a normal antena i am able to connect remotely but the down side is that my signal is up and i noticed if i have the antenas down enemy ships will not pressue me

[Antaiir]

Do the laser antennas have a clear line of sight all the time and are they "paired"?

See https://spaceengineers.fandom.com/wiki/Laser_Antenna :

"To set up a connection between two Laser Antennas:

Enter the Control Panel of the grid that Laser Antenna 1 is connected to.
Press Copy my coords.
Enter the Control Panel of the grid that Laser Antenna 2 is connected to.
Press Paste coords. Then, press Copy my coords.
Now, go back to Laser Antenna 1 again, and press Paste coords.

If the two Laser Antennas have line of sight, they should now be connected."

[Tekomi Nakama☭]

Originally posted by Antaiir:

Do the laser antennas have a clear line of sight all the time and are they "paired"?

See https://spaceengineers.fandom.com/wiki/Laser_Antenna :

"To set up a connection between two Laser Antennas:

Enter the Control Panel of the grid that Laser Antenna 1 is connected to.
Press Copy my coords.
Enter the Control Panel of the grid that Laser Antenna 2 is connected to.
Press Paste coords. Then, press Copy my coords.
Now, go back to Laser Antenna 1 again, and press Paste coords.

If the two Laser Antennas have line of sight, they should now be connected."

yeah they both have line of sight for each other i do that in both of them but they do not connect im in literal space there is nothing between both they just do not connect whenever you go to space engineers could you try it out im convinced this is a bug

[Tekomi Nakama☭]

like both antenas say trying to connect but they do not connect

[Dantheotherone]

I just tested on Lone Survivor and it worked fine, I even pushed the power usage bar into the red without loosing contact with the ship.

My test ship (large grid) had a small reactor for power.
These antenna's are power hungry and it gets worse when you extend the range.
You may be having power issues.

Try this.
Step 1. Go to the base laser antenna and click on copy coordinates.
Step 2. Go to the ship laser antenna and paste coordinates. While there click on connect to coordinates.
You should then see the ship antenna searching for the base antenna and connecting to it.

When it connects, I also click the permanent connection, so the ship will always try to connect with the base.

[Tekomi Nakama☭]

Originally posted by Dantheotherone:

I just tested on Lone Survivor and it worked fine, I even pushed the power usage bar into the red without loosing contact with the ship.

My test ship (large grid) had a small reactor for power.
These antenna's are power hungry and it gets worse when you extend the range.
You may be having power issues.

Try this.
Step 1. Go to the base laser antenna and click on copy coordinates.
Step 2. Go to the ship laser antenna and paste coordinates. While there click on connect to coordinates.
You should then see the ship antenna searching for the base antenna and connecting to it.

When it connects, I also click the permanent connection, so the ship will always try to connect with the base.

but that is my problem , i do see both antenas , both can find them selfs but they do not connect to each other
it just stays endlessly in trying to establish connection

[ShadedMJ]

Originally posted by CapitãoBranca:

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but that is my problem , i do see both antenas , both can find them selfs but they do not connect to each other
it just stays endlessly in trying to establish connection

Range? Make sure both laser antennas are in range of each other.
Power? Laser antennas take more power.

Suggestion: Bring them right next to each other and try the remote that way. If it won't work close by, it won't work far away.

[nodabba]

Originally posted by RT:

Laser Antenna have been broken for over a year now. They'll only properly connect a fraction of the time.
Sometimes (bur not all the time) You can set them to connect, save, quit, then reload and they'll be connected.

I have no idea what the threshold is for them working/not working but since i got the run around when i tried to report it as a bug i gave up and started using regular antennas in series.

Experienced the same a few days ago. connected my space station (really a station) and a station on a planet to each other. Didn't work. On next game reload everything worked fine and still does...

[Dantheotherone]

Originally posted by CapitãoBranca:

Originally posted by Dantheotherone:

I just tested on Lone Survivor and it worked fine, I even pushed the power usage bar into the red without loosing contact with the ship.

My test ship (large grid) had a small reactor for power.
These antenna's are power hungry and it gets worse when you extend the range.
You may be having power issues.

Try this.
Step 1. Go to the base laser antenna and click on copy coordinates.
Step 2. Go to the ship laser antenna and paste coordinates. While there click on connect to coordinates.
You should then see the ship antenna searching for the base antenna and connecting to it.

When it connects, I also click the permanent connection, so the ship will always try to connect with the base.

but that is my problem , i do see both antenas , both can find them selfs but they do not connect to each other
it just stays endlessly in trying to establish connection

So, the antenna's are eyeball to eyeball, so to speak, and they still can't find each other?

Considering the logistics (Power usage increases with range) and limitations of using a laser antenna to control a drone.

For example, turning the drone too far and they can't "see" each other and you lose control of the drone.

May I ask why you chose laser over broadcast antennas to control a drone?

As far as the problem, maybe upload your world to the workshop so others can jump in to troubleshoot it.

Exactly what is your setup procedure?
You're not trying to have them both search for the other one at the same time, are you?

Basically it's get the coordinates of the base laser and paste it into the ship laser and tell it to connect to those coordinates.
Other than get the coordinates from the base laser, you need do nothing else to it to have them connect.

Is the base laser showing up in the ship's known laser location box?
Usually when that happens, they connect but you're saying that doesn't happen even though it does see the base laser?

Strange indeed. As I stated before, I tested them and found no problems.

[Tekomi Nakama☭]

Originally posted by Dantheotherone:

Originally posted by CapitãoBranca:

but that is my problem , i do see both antenas , both can find them selfs but they do not connect to each other
it just stays endlessly in trying to establish connection

So, the antenna's are eyeball to eyeball, so to speak, and they still can't find each other?

Considering the logistics (Power usage increases with range) and limitations of using a laser antenna to control a drone.

For example, turning the drone too far and they can't "see" each other and you lose control of the drone.

May I ask why you chose laser over broadcast antennas to control a drone?

As far as the problem, maybe upload your world to the workshop so others can jump in to troubleshoot it.

Exactly what is your setup procedure?
You're not trying to have them both search for the other one at the same time, are you?

Basically it's get the coordinates of the base laser and paste it into the ship laser and tell it to connect to those coordinates.
Other than get the coordinates from the base laser, you need do nothing else to it to have them connect.

Is the base laser showing up in the ship's known laser location box?
Usually when that happens, they connect but you're saying that doesn't happen even though it does see the base laser?

Strange indeed. As I stated before, I tested them and found no problems.

i really have no idea why i'm using laser antnas , in my head i think i miss understood someone when they said if you turn your antenas off enemy ships won't follow you , that's why i was using an laser antena connected to my spy sateliet and because i tough the laser antena follows the drone so i won't lose my conection , i was trying to pair them at the distance o 6km it was a big NPC base on a steroide i am playing survival and i wanted to scout the base without damaging it , but the laser still don't connect to each other , the problem with the antena is that i'm losing conection all the time
and yes i put both drones to connect at same time since i have the antena on just to be easier to copy and paste cords from the grid select menu

[Dantheotherone]

In MP, a laser antenna will keep your location secret.
In single player, it gives you a range advantage when connecting two bases that are beyond the range of the broadcast antennas.

If the far away base is connected by laser and has a broadcast antenna as well then the laser signal will transfer into the broadcast antenna and you can control drones that way.
You don't lose contact because both lasers are stationary and the broadcast antennas don't care about orientation.

I once operated a remote mining outpost that way by using remote controlled miners.

I believe the stock out of the box NPC's, don't care what type of antenna you use and work by distance from you.
Mod NPC's, on the other hand, for example, will leave you alone until you either put up turrets or a broadcast antenna and of course have you in their sights.

Where the laser is located on the drone matters. If it's on the rear and you turn 180 degrees, you'll lose contact.

Having it on the bottom or top and flying it above or below the base laser gives you the ability to turn and still keep contact. Just don't try any fancy barrel rolls with it or you'll be back in the same boat again.
The laser can only move within a certain radius, which is half of a sphere.

Imagine a drone with a light on it and you have to fly it where you always see the light.
No light, no contact.

The reason I stated the steps involved in connecting is because if they try to connect to each other at the same time it is like the following scenario.
You call a friend and at the same time they call you. Both of you will get a busy signal.

Think of it this way.
You go to the base laser and get its "phone number" (coordinates) and give that number to the ship laser to call.

I would grind both lasers down and build a couple of fresh ones to make sure you're starting from scratch.
Then get the coordinates from the base laser and do nothing else to it.
Put those coordinates into the ship laser and hit connect to coordinates.
This should connect the two.

If it doesn't then something else is at play and would require some troubleshooting.
I hope this helps you.

[Tekomi Nakama☭]

Originally posted by Dantheotherone:

In MP, a laser antenna will keep your location secret.
In single player, it gives you a range advantage when connecting two bases that are beyond the range of the broadcast antennas.

If the far away base is connected by laser and has a broadcast antenna as well then the laser signal will transfer into the broadcast antenna and you can control drones that way.
You don't lose contact because both lasers are stationary and the broadcast antennas don't care about orientation.

I once operated a remote mining outpost that way by using remote controlled miners.

I believe the stock out of the box NPC's, don't care what type of antenna you use and work by distance from you.
Mod NPC's, on the other hand, for example, will leave you alone until you either put up turrets or a broadcast antenna and of course have you in their sights.

Where the laser is located on the drone matters. If it's on the rear and you turn 180 degrees, you'll lose contact.

Having it on the bottom or top and flying it above or below the base laser gives you the ability to turn and still keep contact. Just don't try any fancy barrel rolls with it or you'll be back in the same boat again.
The laser can only move within a certain radius, which is half of a sphere.

Imagine a drone with a light on it and you have to fly it where you always see the light.
No light, no contact.

The reason I stated the steps involved in connecting is because if they try to connect to each other at the same time it is like the following scenario.
You call a friend and at the same time they call you. Both of you will get a busy signal.

Think of it this way.
You go to the base laser and get its "phone number" (coordinates) and give that number to the ship laser to call.

I would grind both lasers down and build a couple of fresh ones to make sure you're starting from scratch.
Then get the coordinates from the base laser and do nothing else to it.
Put those coordinates into the ship laser and hit connect to coordinates.
This should connect the two.

If it doesn't then something else is at play and would require some troubleshooting.
I hope this helps you.

yeah you helped me alot thank you