is there another way to make hydrogen?

[Moon Truther]

I'm using the 02/Hydrogen production blocks but it takes so much ice and it takes so long for them to process anything. Am i missing something?

[Candarian]

no
not without mods at least

[M.Red]

use more O²/H-Generators if needed. But it will take even more ice but tanks got filled way faster. If you are building near a source of ice (poles) then you wont have any sort of ice shortage

mine it like crazy XD

[Corpobullier]

Is this why Hydrogen engines aren't immediately producing energy?

[Candarian]

the thing with hydrogen engines is a bug(probably)
u often need to turn the hydrogen engine on(yellow) off(red) on(green) before it start working
there are lights on the hydrogen engine

[Gilmer]

My O2H generator works really fast. I have it it attached to about 15 wind turbines. Plus, I'm about 6 Km from a lake and I go and get a schittload of ice.

[Jack Schitt]

Mine is super fast too. I have H2 and O2 before I know it as long as the generator has ice to process. If it's taking a while maybe that block is funky. I had a rotor do that the other day where it was moving really slow and I couldn't get it to speed up. Try replacing the o2/h2 generator(s) with new ones. That's what "fixed" the rotor acting up. This happens now and then. I'm not sure if it's a bug or it's something or somehow with things being placed weird or...I dunno but it happens.

The 02/H2 generator should be really fast.

It's either what I explained above, replacing it should make it start working right, or if you're using any mods (at all) maybe they're causing it to be slow.

[Moon Truther]

Originally posted by Jack Schitt:

Mine is super fast too. I have H2 and O2 before I know it as long as the generator has ice to process. If it's taking a while maybe that block is funky. I had a rotor do that the other day where it was moving really slow and I couldn't get it to speed up. Try replacing the o2/h2 generator(s) with new ones. That's what "fixed" the rotor acting up. This happens now and then. I'm not sure if it's a bug or it's something or somehow with things being placed weird or...I dunno but it happens.

The 02/H2 generator should be really fast.

It's either what I explained above, replacing it should make it start working right, or if you're using any mods (at all) maybe they're causing it to be slow.

I had two h202 generators connected to a crate, and then tubes running to a hydrogen tank. when i put ice in the crate it uses all the ice within five minutes but only brings the hydrogen in the tank to 1 percent

[Jack Schitt]

When you find ice it's more times than not a big deposit of it. The amount of ice put in to a container doesn't mean the generators are going to create that same amount of gas as the ice we put in to it. Especially if it's being used by vents or medical bay(s) or some other block that uses it.

Put a holy crap ton of ice in the container or directly in the generator and make sure the stock pile on the tank is turned off.
It should fill up in no time. If you only put a little bit of ice in the system of course it's not going to produce much.

[Moon Truther]

Originally posted by Jack Schitt:

When you find ice it's more times than not a big deposit of it. The amount of ice put in to a container doesn't mean the generators are going to create that same amount of gas as the ice we put in to it. Especially if it's being used by vents or medical bay(s) or some other block that uses it.

Put a holy crap ton of ice in the container or directly in the generator and make sure the stock pile on the tank is turned off.
It should fill up in no time. If you only put a little bit of ice in the system of course it's not going to produce much.

I had put in 15K inside it. Do i really need more?

[Jack Schitt]

I'm not sure of the actual math of ice to gas ratio or how much the tanks hold. I've never had to figure it out because I just fill up a large cargo container with ice and let the generators do their thing. 15k isn't really that large of an amount. The large cargo containers hold over 4 million.
Fill a large cargo container up with ice.

I usually set up a dedicated conveyor and storage system for o2 and h2. At least for the production of it anyway.

[Jack Schitt]

I just ran a test to figure out the capacity of the oxygen generator and tank. I placed a large cargo container down, put the o2 generator on one of it's ports and the tank on the end of the generator and of course a battery down on the grid to power it. I shift+F10 spawned 1000 units of ice into the container and by the time I jetpacked over to the tank it was 100% full (10,000L).

So the ratio is 1:10. 1 unit ice makes 10 units of oxygen. 10,000 units of oxygen fills the tank which takes 1000 pieces of ice to make with one generator.
If you have 2 generators the ratio probably cuts in half making it 1:5 (1 ice = 5L oxygen).
It probably also cuts the ratio in half, again, if you have both an H2 and an O2 tank.

Fill a large cargo container with ice completely and see what happens.
If you're running mods...that might be the cause of it being slow.
It was super fast. Faster than I could jetpack 1 meter (3 feet) and access the generator port.

[skunkmonkey]

You will make many many trips with your miner to get enough ice to fill a tank. Even more depressing is that a full tank isn't even remotely close to enough to lift a large ship into space. Depending on the size of your ship you might need 4+ full tanks to do the job. At least that's what I ran into with my first hydrogen ship. I appreciate what the devs were trying to do with hydrogen, but IMO they made it far to inefficient to be worthwhile.

After experiencing that nightmare I decided that planets are worthless piles of pretty space rock. Hydrogen thrusters are just too inefficient to be worthwhile. Unless you want to spend days farming ice every time you want to leave.

Another option (though it requires you to start in space) is to only use Atmo/Ion thrusters. You need to have enough Atmo thrusters to cap out your speed at 100m/s though because there is a deadzone where neither engine will provide enough lift. As long as you can coast through the deadzone you can say goodbye to hydrogen thrusters forever.

[seronis]

there is no deadzone. atmos work up to 8km. Ion thrusters will at a minimum be functioning at 30% strength at that point. If you dont have enough Ion thrust to escape gravity then you probably dont have enough to steer or stop at a useful rate while in space.

[skunkmonkey]

deadzone is probably the wrong word for it. What I mean is that the power bands for atmospheric thrusters and ion thrusters overlap in such a way that the atmospheric thrusters begin to wayne before the ion thrusters begin to wax. This area is what I'm referfing to the deadzone.

During this zone you will see your speed drop as your atmospheric thrusters lose lift, and your ion thrusters have insufficient lift to maintain speed. If you have enough velocity then your velocity will push you through this zone until your ion thrusters have enough lift to start to increase your velocity again.

I really wish there was a way to graph the thrust power bands for thrusters via the control panel. It would make planning a ship so much less risky and reduce the number of failed attempts. Hydrogen makes this experimental aspect even more expensive because you have to guess at how much hydrogen you need to carry with you to reach space and land again. I've destroyed more than one ship by discovering too late that I didn't have enough lift to make a round trip.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Instead of bringing ice to your hydro production..... bring your hydro production to the ice haha

If you set up someting akin to a drill rig with a simply crane made of pistons, that can rotate around the structure. Then you can just set it to veeeeeeery slowly turn with a drill on the end of it switched on.

Now you can go away and leave it for an hour, come back and it should have made a circle around the main base.... mined tonnes of ice..... and converted it.

Then drop the drill head down 6 feet and start it again :)