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VA Dec 15, 2019 @ 7:34am
Guys, i need to change my ship's armor from light to heavy is there mod for this?
I need to swith light armor to heavy on my current ship. Does game have possibility change armor faster then manualy&
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Candarian Dec 15, 2019 @ 8:48am 
no
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 15, 2019 @ 10:46am 
Hi, it was possible before by using SEToolBox but that app is dead :steamsad:

Maybe by changing the words "light" for "heavy" in the Bp files but I recommend to test with copies to avoid losing the original if you try.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 15, 2019 @ 10:47am
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 15, 2019 @ 10:50am 
Oh! Or install an older game version, use SEToolBox matching version, convert the Blueprint and redo a new one with new name to be sure = it should show up in the current game Bp list.
Candarian Dec 15, 2019 @ 11:58am 
why do i have the feeling doing that manualy is faster?
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 15, 2019 @ 12:06pm 
Depends if the ship very big like 90 000 blocks = may take less time to install an older version.
Karmaterrorᵁᴷ Dec 15, 2019 @ 12:47pm 
There really should be an ingame tool for this sort of stuff, maybe if we right clicked on a BP and could alter things like armour type and then have it save a copy with the changes. So sad that SEToolbox is dead...... RIP old friend :(
Blacky Watchy Dec 15, 2019 @ 12:55pm 
Im with karmaterror. We need a faster way
Lystent Dec 15, 2019 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Dan2D3D:
Hi, it was possible before by using SEToolBox but that app is dead :steamsad:

Maybe by changing the words "light" for "heavy" in the Bp files but I recommend to test with copies to avoid losing the original if you try.
Light armor is just called "Armor" in the BP files, which may or may not complicate things (depending on the word "Armor" being used on any other type of block used in the grid).
Last edited by Lystent; Dec 15, 2019 @ 1:04pm
Dan2D3D  [developer] Dec 15, 2019 @ 1:11pm 
We need a good Modder that can do it, something like the "Block Color change" Mod but for "Armor", he would get a lot of thumbs up on the WS :selike:
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Dec 15, 2019 @ 1:11pm
seronis (Banned) Dec 15, 2019 @ 1:25pm 
Those are unrelated things by how the game is setup. Color is just a property of all blocks. Setting it is no different than renaming something. The game doesnt like you changing block types. Probably because keen is too lazy to allow a block to reload its model
Pryor Dec 17, 2019 @ 11:03pm 
I would just keep it the way it is, heavy armor blocks are just heavy and make your ship harder to move and are more expensive ingame.
If you build a ship with Heavy Armor Blocks you will see that its too heavy to move....... now you need a mod to increase thruster power, another mod for this and that, it doesnt matter because if your using MODS then the mods like the Atlas Super Laser make heavy armor block a waist as that weapon will destroy your ship reguardless of blocks, mods, modded shields with upgrades.
What Space Engineers needs to make an even lighter weight Aluminum Block so that we can decorate our ships without weighing them down..... this is something I would be willing to pay for.
The Chaotic Coder Dec 17, 2019 @ 11:24pm 
Heavy armor does have its uses.

I agree there should be some way to swap light armor for heavy throughout a BP without having to do it manually. Although if you only wanted some of the blocks to be heavy (the outer hull, for example) while keeping light blocks for the internal structure, that would still require manual replacement.

Another thing I'd like to see is the ability in Survival to change a block from light to heavy by welding in the additional components without removing and replacing the block. (Similar to the Upgrade function in Empyrion). This would save time from not having to select the shape/rotation for each block, just go along a wall with a welder and you're done.
hippybaker Dec 18, 2019 @ 7:21am 
These folks are correct that heavy armor is indeed, Heavy.

One thing I like to do is place it just in the spots that are going to be hit.. Corners, Bow, etc..

My real world boat building experience has led me to use heavy armor as frames, which actually works pretty well.
While grids are not affected by forces like torsion or shear; I do find that having frames really actually helps to keep missiles and bullets out, and adds lots of collision strength. Ships with frames seem more able to survive catastrophic damage
the-phil Dec 19, 2019 @ 1:47am 
If you have admin rights or are playing single player you could always make a blueprint (ctrl+b) edit the blueprint file then paste in the edited blueprint from the blueprints menu (F10).
(If you are in single player survival you can toggle creative mode on with space masters alt+f10 under "Admin Tools" and check "Enable Creative Mode Tools")

I use a text editor that has a replace feature to swap light and heavy armor blocks for blueprints fairly quickly. You can even use notepad to do it, only downside with notepad is it doesn't give you a confirmation or a count of the strings replaced.
1. Open your blueprints folder %appdata%\SpaceEngineers\Blueprints\local\
2. Copy and paste the folder of the blueprint then open the copied folder. (Make changes to the copy so you don't mess up your original)
3. Delete any files named bp.sbcB? where ? is a number like bp.sbcB5. You should now only have bp.sbc and thumb.png in the folder.
4. Edit the bp.sbc file with your preferred text editor and replace "LargeBlockArmor" with "LargeHeavyBlockArmor". Swap the replace text strings to switch heavy to light.
5. Don't forget to save your file, otherwise you'll have to repeat step 3.

The replace features are typically under edit or search on the file menu in the editor.
Tidal May 18, 2021 @ 4:29pm 
Worked
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