Ship/hydrogen and oxygen selling

[Maj. Mistake]

When you go into a game-made space station, and into one of the shops, you can buy vehicles, and O2/H2, and I am wondering if it is possible to do this in a player made store.

[ShadedMJ]

I focus on single-player. but I don't think selling O2/H2 would work or even be a good idea. You can just sit on an ice lake and generate O2/H2 and bring it in, so its so abundant that it'd be not have buyable value to the store. You as an engineer might need the O2/H2 but the stores would never need it.

[Maj. Mistake]

It was just something that looked interesting, but I was more focused on the possibility of selling ships.

[Buzzard]

Player made ships can't be sold in Stores. NPC Stores use a number of 'cheats' to make everything happen. Cheats are also how the NPC trade stations never run out of power/materials, even though the whole operation is massively power hungry. (Mainly that safe zone bubble, but...)

[ShadedMJ]

Originally posted by Buzzard:

... NPC trade stations never run out of power/materials, even though the whole operation is massively power hungry. (Mainly that safe zone bubble, but...)

I dispute that a little. it _should_ be power hungry if it followed player rules. I've taken apart 2 NPC trade stations and there was no safe zone block in them.

[ShadedMJ]

Originally posted by Crimson_Dawn:

It was just something that looked interesting, but I was more focused on the possibility of selling ships.

Then there was a discussion 4 days ago about it.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/4345408777047560322/

[rottielover]

Posted in the other discussion but re-posting here:

There is a torch plugin for servers that works with the Hangar plugin to make a player ship market. You install the torch plugin's on the server, then players need to know how to use the hangar plugin to save a ship into the "hangar", they can then type a command to post the ship up for sale on the market for an amount of Space Credits. The author has a companion mod you should install that adds a projector table block that will let you preview the ships on the market before purchase.

I looked into trying to allow the player store block to sell either ships or O2/H2 about a year ago, never could make it work. Player-made trading stations are a very rare thing on servers for good reasons, I just wish Keen would finally wake up to the feedback.

[Dan2D3D]

Hi, there is a video Tuto link in-game F1 where SE Dev Xocliw shows all about the store block, how to create your store and I recommend to watch it.

[Maj. Mistake]

Thank you

[rottielover]

Sorry Dan but I have to ask, of the F1 videos (Introduction, Basic Controls, Possibilities within the game modes, Drilling Refining and Assembling (Survival), Building you 1st Ship (Creative), Survival, Experimental mode, Building your 1st Grouind Vehicle (creative), Steam Workshop and Blueprints, Other Advice and Closing Thoughts) which of those again has the Store block??

OP asked about selling gasses (O2/H2), which unless something got snuck into a patch has never been a thing for players (and I know of no mod or plugin that allows it either)

I just loaded up a brand new test creative local game, sure enough the store block hasn't changed that I can tell from it's introduction. You can setup buy orders or sell orders for inventory items. Nothing for connected gas tanks

My advice to OP, if you'd like to "sell" gasses setup a trade station and setup an LCD with instructions for connecting up to a special connector, you might be able to devise some way to trigger a timer block to turn it on if the player deposits some items as payment (engineering issue to solve) but more than likely if you want space credits you'll have to setup the honor system on the gasses...

Otherwise if you want to sell a whole ship you need the Torch plugin, if you want to sell items from inventory (ore, ingot, comp) you can do that vanilla.

Originally posted by Dan2D3D:

Hi, there is a video Tuto link in-game F1 where SE Dev Xocliw shows all about the store block, how to create your store and I recommend to watch it.

[Dan2D3D]

@rottielover

Must be a live stream save on SE YouTube named "economy" where Xocliw shows all about it and worth to watch to know what we can do with the Store block and the Contracts block.

I will go verify the SE YouTube and paste in the right video (they are all saved over there).

[Dan2D3D]

Well looks like it's not in-game anymore so thanks for specifying, rottielover

I am still watching the ones saved on the SE YouTube to find the one where Xocliw shows all about it, should be in one named "Economy" :

https://www.youtube.com/c/SpaceEngineersGame/videos

[Dan2D3D]

This one would be the first basic info about the Store and Contract blocks, so to create your store by using the "administration" button :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jsTyft-Bc

[Ash]

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[Dan2D3D]

Originally posted by Ash:

hello, how do we sell hydrogen?

Hi, I recommend to create a new 2024 forum discussion that matches the new game version we have today.

2021 is too old because the game was not the same.