Game "randomly" slowing down on high end pc

[KoDeeo]

TL:DR: Game randomly "slowing down time", even on the lowest settings, with no mods


Hello to who cares to read!

I am playing on a fairly new PC, an Acer Nitro 5 515-45.
Details:
GPU: nvidia gtx 1660Ti
CPU: intel Core i7 9750H
RAM: 16G

I am playing SI after a long time of it sitting in my steam library to try the new update.
The problem is my game is suffering from random "slow downs" every 4-5 seconds or so: those are not FPS drops nor stuttering: FPS in the corner stay between 60 and 80 all the time.

I tried to reboot the game, put any graphic option on the lowest setting possible and start a new game. I am using no mods.
Tried to spawn on the moon with my trusty rover, but this behavior prevents me to navigate around, with or without a ship.
The game is running smoothly for some seconds, then it suddenly slows down (like time in the game is slowing) for a couple of seconds, then it becomes normal again and repeats the whole time.

Things I tried:
Disable any mods
Reboot computer and game
Update all my drivers
Start a fresh new world
Put all graphic option on the lowest setting possible
Put all world options impacting performance on the lowest setting possible
Closing all background apps and stuff

But still, my game is unplayable.
Anyone experienced something similar, or anyone having a solution?

Many thanks for reading!

[Fate]

Maybe let Taskmanager run in the background and observer the CPU load changes when the slow downs happen.

The only thing can think of is the windows task scheduler messing up. Try setting the CPU cores manually in the taskmanager. Try Limiting it to Cores 0,2,4,6 or 1,3,5,7.

[UBetterCallSaul]

you sound like youre playing on a laptop. this game is cpu intensive, that cpu isnt that fast. neither is the 1660ti, not to burst your bubble. you don't have a high end pc. a gtx 1660ti is dated and doesnt even have ray tracing, or DLSS. Idk who told you that

[UBetterCallSaul]

a high end pc would be a 3080

[Pyrrhus]

A manufacturer laptop has its limits. Just because they advertise on their laptops are made for gaming doesn't means it's true. Maybe for some games but not for Space Engineers. Custom build pc with better components (without any generic parts) would run best on Space Engineers.

[Capt Fuzzy]

Originally posted by in_moms_basement:

a gtx 1660ti is dated and doesnt even have ray tracing, or DLSS.

Hey now, don't be bashing the 1660Ti.
I have one and it runs Space Engineers just fine, thank you very much.
Most of my settings in SE are high or at maximum and I have no issues with slow-downs or freezes. I have seen some lag spikes when playing MP, but I'm pretty sure that they had nothing to do with the 1660Ti and everything to do with a sub-standard internet connection on the server end.

I do agree that it doesn't constitute a 'high-end' pc as described.

[KoDeeo]

Originally posted by Capt Fuzzy:

Originally posted by in_moms_basement:

a gtx 1660ti is dated and doesnt even have ray tracing, or DLSS.

Hey now, don't be bashing the 1660Ti.
I have one and it runs Space Engineers just fine, thank you very much.
Most of my settings in SE are high or at maximum and I have no issues with slow-downs or freezes. I have seen some lag spikes when playing MP, but I'm pretty sure that they had nothing to do with the 1660Ti and everything to do with a sub-standard internet connection on the server end.

I do agree that it doesn't constitute a 'high-end' pc as described.

Ok maybe it's not high end, but it's no joke.

I played this same game on this same PC with every setting on high or extreme and there was no problem. I play Battlefield 5 on high settings 1080p. I play CPU intensive games like city skylines or heavily modded rimworld without a problem.
And a 1660ti is one of the best laptop gaming cards they have made, there is no need for DLSS or RT in SI.

[Dan2D3D]

Hi, why not tell all this to the ones working on the game?

Would be better to let them know than players here on Steam, in my opinion.

Directly to the SE programmers :

Support Portal = https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc
(create "Bug report" or "Request help"(Private) or "Feedback"(Petition) on the Portal)

+
Here some important Data we have to add in the report to help the SE programmer before they ask you :
Bug report Guide
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/1/523897653318639486/

Note

All may use the Support Email to report the bugs found if they prefer :
Email = [e-mail]

[Dan2D3D]

I will add :

We have a lot of small bugs here and there since the last Major game update and the SE Team told the community to help by reporting all new problems directly to them, don't be shy to do so!

[Ronin Planetary Industries]

Press SHIFT + F1 in the game and check all the error boxes. Then read what's going on. You might have built something that is griefing the physics engine and causing slow-downs. Do you have anything with a lot of pistons, rotors, hinges? Do you have a lot of turrets going? Massive ships?

You can also publish your game world to the workshop and post a link here. Other people can then load your exact game and see if there's anything that's causing the game to spazz out.

[Dan2D3D]

Well he seem to have done all the needed testing, I can tell I have the same freezes since the last major update and the best is to do a proper Portal Bug report" with all the important Data shared in the Bug report Guide :
https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/1/523897653318639486/

[KoDeeo]

Wow, a reply from the dev himself! Thank you very much, I'll make a bug report with all the data. I just wasn't sure if this was a proper bug or some kind of other weird behavior.
BTW you have made a great game guys!

[Dan2D3D]

Oh! You surely not know me so I must specify :

-> I am not SE Dev but Moderator community helper/game tester and the SE Devs gave me the [Dev] Tag so I can be admin of the Workshop to help more.
(Steam Moderator Role can't be admin)

I also collect the most talked about every months to add to my monthly report to the SE Team, and I help the SE community cause it's my Fav sandbox game on Steam.

[Pure Hostility]

Originally posted by Capt Fuzzy:

Originally posted by in_moms_basement:

a gtx 1660ti is dated and doesnt even have ray tracing, or DLSS.

Hey now, don't be bashing the 1660Ti.

Have to chip in.
There are multiple reasons to bash on 1660(Ti), as the card is more of a waste scrap from manufacturing than anything planned to be produced and sold in the first place.

1660 (Ti or not) is SLIGHTLY better than the budget 1060 and is worse than stock 1070.

I remember reading up on it, as I was trying to help my friend in building his new pc. Once I found out how 1660 behaves, I was disgusted.
It is a borderline scam and up to this day whenever I hear an ad in a radio for a "Gaming Computer" with 1660 I just shake my head with disbelief, knowing there will be a sad person who falls for it.

The raytracing remark in_moms_basement used is quite a stretch by itself.
20xx series can barely use it, forget having a playable game with raytracing turned on with these series.

30xx series are more capable, but still, you won't use it in any multiplayer game due to performance hit. In SP it depends on the game itself, but you will often want to decide between a smooth 4k high fps or raytracing "cinematic experience".

[gesundheit]

Here's my 2 cents...
I just loaded up this game after being away for a year to test it out on my new AMD 5900x/6900xt with 32G 3200 RAM and a Firecuda 530 ssd desktop. By monitoring Radeon Software Adrenalin it runs the cpu around 20%(if remember right) and the gpu around 50% or lower. It does however use over 14G of my 32G RAM. All max settings except view distance sliders were left alone.
I haven't checked how many cpu cores are being used and how much they're being taxed so the low cpu usage could be misleading.
But the RAM usage tells me that many people could experience bottlenecks in RAM use.

Initially I had complete screen lock freezing at the beginning happening while entering an offline game world then occasional heavy resource usage warnings just like I experienced on my older laptop with a gtx1070 w/16G RAM and i7 7700hq.

After initial early freezing it played smoothly with only occasional slow downs that seemed to coincide with auto saving and seemingly random crashes to desktop after an hour or so.

As far as what I was doing in game, I never attempted to build anything. I just ran around in creative mode shooting stuff and drilling long tunnels through hills and such.

[KoDeeo]

Please, I don't want this to be a discussion on my PC or my damn GPU. The game HAS ALREADY ran smoothly at high settings ON THIS SAME PC.
I don't know much about drivers, teraflops, behaviors or nvidia models, but I am 100% sure I played Space Engineers on high settings on this same computer some time ago, and I also play recent games like no man sky, battlefield V or CIV 6, without a problem.
Also, I specified it's not a FPS problem, they are between 60 and 80, but there is a strange "slowing" effect on the whole game.
Please stop arguing about my PC specs.