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Insanity Feb 6, 2022 @ 10:54am
O2/H2 Generator not pulling ice via conveyor?
I have a new hybrid grid ship just for carrying a large ore detector. It has a O2/H2 Generator that apparently will only convert ice if I manually put ice in it. I am certain the conveyor setup would permit it to pull from the coveyor as I have put ice in a cargo container and then dragged ice that from that inventory into the O2/H2 inventory, upon which it will start converting ice. However, it seems that when it is out of ice, it will not draw additional ice from the same cargo container. There are two Hydrogen Tanks that do get filled when I've placed ice in the O2/H2 Generator

Any ideas?
Last edited by Insanity; Feb 6, 2022 @ 10:58am
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Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 11:49am 
Hi, you should share some Steam screenshots of your creation so all can share suggestions.

It should work all on default settings if the O2/H2 Gen is conveyor connected properly.

I can share what I do :

I usually place one Soter on one side of the conveyor line in a way I can empty my cargo ships and mining ship to a Station Container in a few seconds and the other blocks will take what they need from the large container automatically :
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2489646605
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Feb 6, 2022 @ 11:51am
Insanity Feb 6, 2022 @ 12:27pm 
Sideview of the ship. There is ice in the large cargo container, but the O2/H2 generator under the cockpit is not pulling ice from it. There are tthree small conveyors behind the cockpit to connect it to the large cargo container. The hydrogen tanks are also connected to the convoyer system as they will start to collect H2 when I place ice in the O2/H2 generator. The ship's connector is locked to the station to recharge batteries and supply power. There is a sorter under the platform, but it is turned off as to avoid pulling ice from the ship at the moment.

If I open the inventory menu for the ship, I can move ice from the large cargo container into the O2/H2 generator, which suggests that the conveyor works, just the O2/H2 generator isn't using it and I've checked to make sure that's selected.

I'm about to grind off the O2/H2 generator and rebuild what's there to see if that fixes it.


https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2745447233
Last edited by Insanity; Feb 6, 2022 @ 12:28pm
Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 12:45pm 
It looks properly conveyor connected on your screenshot so it should work.

The O2/H2 Gen may be OFF !?
-> Make sure it's ON and verify if "Auto-refill" is checked on the O2/H2 Gen cause it will not take ice auto if those 2 are OFF.


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I just tested on my side, the connected ship was able to refill auto from the station container and its own connector/cargos :
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2745464970
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Feb 6, 2022 @ 12:46pm
Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 12:48pm 
OH! The batteries are set on Recharge so no power for the O2/H2 Gen !

That may be why ??
Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 12:50pm 
Good Advice

Always build a "Emergency" Battery that you keep full charge and turned OFF so you can turn it ON only when you set the main Batteries on "Recharge".
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Feb 6, 2022 @ 12:52pm
Insanity Feb 6, 2022 @ 1:05pm 
The connectors are locked and the O2/H2 does work, just isn't pulling the ice.
I'll check the auto-fill setting when I get the chance.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 1:13pm 
Because ice will not go to O2/H2 Gen if not powered, so it looks like a power problem where the O2/H2 Gen goes OFF.
Insanity Feb 6, 2022 @ 1:58pm 
Toggling the batteries to auto does not seem to resolve it. The O2/H2 generator is toggled On, Auto-refill, and Use Conveyor System.

I'm going to grind the O2/H2 generator out and rebuild it.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 2:02pm 
Maybe bugged when placed under the normal cockpit?

The one I tested was not under the cockpit, they change all cockpits so that may be the cause??

I will go in to test one with O2/H2 Gen under the cockpit, be back later ...
Insanity Feb 6, 2022 @ 2:03pm 
Weird, I had some O2 and H2 bottles sitting in the O2/H2 generator inventory. I moved them to the cockpit before I went to grind it, as soon as I did that, ice got pulled. I put the bottles back, still pulling.
Insanity Feb 6, 2022 @ 2:11pm 
Correct, seems that if I have three bottles in the O2/H2 generator, it won't pull from the conveyor even though there's room.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 2:30pm 
Oh! 3 bottles!

I just tested small block ship with 2 bottles in O2/H2 Gen + under the cockpit and it worked :
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2745564978

So 3 is too much, well it can bug and all back to normal ...

I will try next time, tho we should verify the community reports on the Portal to see if one of the participant already reported.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Feb 6, 2022 @ 2:49pm
There's the simple help-desk question of "is your H2/O2 generator set to use the conveyor system? It may have been accidentally turned off. Also, as a hybrid ship, which blocks are small grid and which are large? The pull engine might be confused as to where to draw ice from.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Feb 6, 2022 @ 2:51pm 
Sorry for the double post, my bad, I clicked the wrong button (quoted myself) ;)

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I just used the Portal search tool and I can't find any reports on that so you may double test in a new created No Mods world all on default settings to be sure it hapens in all new created world and send a save with bug in to the SE Team.


I will test on my side, too.
Last edited by Dan2D3D; Feb 6, 2022 @ 2:52pm
Insanity Feb 6, 2022 @ 7:02pm 
Originally posted by Ronin Planetary Industries (RPI):
There's the simple help-desk question of "is your H2/O2 generator set to use the conveyor system? It may have been accidentally turned off. Also, as a hybrid ship, which blocks are small grid and which are large? The pull engine might be confused as to where to draw ice from.

All blocks connected to the convevor system are small grid. The only large grid is the ore detector and rotor head.

Seems the issue was having some bottles in the O2/H2 generator inventory.
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