Quick question about the "industrial" blocks

[Docowskey]

just wondering, the "industrial" refinery, assembler, hydrogen thruster, and other blocks with the word industrial in front of them....do these do anything that the originals didn't do? are they perhaps a little more efficient, or different shape, or put the conveyor ports in different spots, or are they pure re-skin? additional question: is there anything in the new update that is useful?

[frag2k4]

The industrial versions are do not do anything faster/better/worse than the vanilla in terms of output or productivity, however there are changes to them

Industrial Refinery
Small staircase built into the block
1 less conveyor port on 'bottom' part

Industrial Assembler
larger as standard 2x2
only 2 ports 1 either side
has a small area that can be stood in.
upgrades are 2 sets on back, 1 top and 1 bottom

Large cargo
2 less ports

Large hydro tank
4 less ports
No air tightness

Large Hydrogen thruster
1 square longer 3x3x4

Free updates include new flat armour blocks more a type of plate instead of a 2.5m block these take up less than a small grid in thickness and come in about 12+ shapes and in small grid too (64 total with heavy armour version)
1x1x1 small grid merge block
2 new types of landing gear (mag blocks)

[Raider Deci]

Its mostly most for aesthetic-stuff, building better looking bases. Kinda expected from a ~4€-dlc though.
The most useful what I can tell so far are the free stuff, the mag-locks to not have to use the giant landing gears and the non-block things (park & power-transfer). The small merge-block will also be very handy to use

[Mojo]

This time around the freebies are better than the paid content.

[ShadedMJ]

Originally posted by Docowskey:

... are they pure re-skin? ...

As others have stated: Yes

Otherwise, for multiplayer, it becomes a pay-to-win.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Originally posted by ShadedMJ:

Originally posted by Docowskey:

... are they pure re-skin? ...

As others have stated: Yes

Otherwise, for multiplayer, it becomes a pay-to-win.

Sorry but nope, as you cut from OP's sentence, both shape and conveyor port changes are present.

OP understands what a reskin actually is :)

[Docowskey]

yeah, the location of the conveyor ports makes a huge difference. i bought one of the other dlc's just for the cockpit with different conveyor port options. depending what i'm building, it make the difference between using a conveyor junction or not just to get the ports on the side i need. my play style is pretty much build exactly what i need and no more, so i don't use the armor blocks much. i can see where they would be nice for players who care what their builds look like, though. and the merge block, also can see how useful it would be...but i don't bother with merge blocks, i just use connectors; my builds don't tend to benefit from them.

thanks for spelling it out for me, its nice to see exactly how the blocks are different without getting into watching videos on youtube or buying the dlc. I'll probably buy it eventually once its been out long enough to go on sale.

[Weaver]

Mostly they are worse version of things functionally, aside from the Refinery. Basically just used for visuals.

[EmberStar]

As others have noted: The "Industrial" versions are bulkier, often with less attachment points or conveyor ports. The Large Industrial Hydrogen Thrusters are 3x3x3, where I'm pretty sure the normal versions are 3x3x2. (Or something similar - the Industrial thrusters are longer and require more effort to fit into certain designs.) The "advantage" of the refineries and assembler is that you can (probably) mash them together in a way to make an airtight refining/processing room and still have all the upgrade slots accessible for the Assembler.

Most of the DLC blocks also at least *look* like more detailed models, which means that graphics processing lag might be a problem for low end computers on ships that use a ton of them.

[Rio]

Still can't believe they added a catwalk or whatever up to the assembler and it would be a perfect pathway to go straight through, but they added in a random wall... Why idk.. But if the path went through you could add it to a lot of builds.

Probably will never use the industrial assembler or refinery... But the pipes do look nice And more landing gear is okay.

Dissappointed the new pipes don't have a small ship version

[EmberStar]

Originally posted by Black:

Still can't believe they added a catwalk or whatever up to the assembler and it would be a perfect pathway to go straight through, but they added in a random wall... Why idk.. But if the path went through you could add it to a lot of builds.

Probably will never use the industrial assembler or refinery... But the pipes do look nice And more landing gear is okay.

They just pushed a patch, and one of the patch notes is something on the lines of "removed railing from Industrial Assembler to allow it to be used as a corridor corner."

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Originally posted by EmberStar:

Assembler to allow it to be used as a corridor corner."

coughcosmeticdlconlymyarsecough

[EmberStar]

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

Originally posted by EmberStar:

Assembler to allow it to be used as a corridor corner."

coughcosmeticdlconlymyarsecough

Yeah, and? It's a ton more expensive than two corridor blocks, takes up *four* blocks, has to be conveyor connected if you want to use it as an assembler, and is a ton heavier than two corridor blocks. Being able to walk in the end and out the side is a nice convenience, and was honestly a *huge* drawback of the original version since you also can't make that side of it airtight - it sucked that it was "not airtight" and also "not possible to connect to a catwalk."

[Rio]

The large industrial cargo having fewer ports could be nice if your into using auto sorters or whatever to keep things seperated in limited space builds I suppose,

But it doesn't go as far as the hydrogen tank, which is kind of a negative? Because if it only had a port at the top and bottom it would be easy keeping things from going into its side neighbors?

[EmberStar]

Originally posted by Black:

The large industrial cargo having fewer ports could be nice if your into using auto sorters or whatever to keep things seperated in limited space builds I suppose,

But it doesn't go as far as the hydrogen tank, which is kind of a negative? Because if it only had a port at the top and bottom it would be easy keeping things from going into its side neighbors?

The Industrial tank is pretty much a downgrade other than looks, and you can break a lot of ship designs by trying to put one in if you don't realize that it only has two ports. I actually managed to break my version of the H-01 large grid mining ship that way - the ship is pretty small, and actually uses the hydrogen tank as a super-sized conveyor junction to tie a lot of the systems together. I slapped in the round tank because I thought it looked neat... then almost crashed the ship into an asteroid because half the thrusters no longer worked.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Originally posted by EmberStar:

Originally posted by Karmaterrorᵁᴷ:

coughcosmeticdlconlymyarsecough

Yeah, and?

No "and", just having a laugh at keen improving the added functionality of there brand new "cosmetic" block ;)