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Shouldn't it be possible to rotate without having your jetpack on?
When you turn your jetpack off you seem to lose all capability to rotate your body around, and can only move your head. This doesn't make any sense. In space you can change your orientation by simply swinging your legs or arms towards the direction you want to rotate in. Is there a reason we can't do this in SE?
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Zuthor Dec 13, 2016 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by Stockton:
When you turn your jetpack off you seem to lose all capability to rotate your body around, and can only move your head. This doesn't make any sense. In space you can change your orientation by simply swinging your legs or arms towards the direction you want to rotate in. Is there a reason we can't do this in SE?

It is possible to move yourself from your centre of gravity but you would have to either move your arms and legs around like a maniac. if you want to move yourself into a direction then that is entierly different because you need to have something you can push off of or something you can throw.

Which in the situation of SE you cannot throw anything to move yourself back to your ship because you ran out of hydrogen so its not needed to add the function to rotate your body. Plus you are in a space suit. have you seen astronauts move around in those things. they are as slow as a sloth
Just Sam Dec 13, 2016 @ 8:20pm 
also without any resistance, you would end up just spinning non stop as you couldnt compensate for the build up of inertia....as i understand it
ShadedMJ Dec 13, 2016 @ 9:12pm 
(half-joke) Because your suit does not have a gyroscope.
Zuthor Dec 13, 2016 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by shadedmj:
(half-joke) Because your suit does not have a gyroscope.

Someone gives the Fella a medal
Camo_Mojo Dec 13, 2016 @ 10:39pm 
When Im out of fuel in my suit and helplessly floating through space I just start flapping my arms and kicking my legs really, REALLY freaking hard like im swiming. Next thing I know Im flying around like Superman but with more flapping and spazzoid kicking movements.
Pembroke Dec 13, 2016 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by Stockton:
When you turn your jetpack off you seem to lose all capability to rotate your body around, and can only move your head. This doesn't make any sense.

Well, strictly speaking if you're in free fall and there's no athmosphere then you can't make yourself spin unless you can apply force to something external. Something else must spin the other way. Conservation of angular momentum and all that.

Though, you could take out some item from your personal inventory and spin that which would then make you spin the opposite direction effectively turning you and the object into a reaction wheel like system.

Not that this has much connection to SE physics, of course... :-)
Young Robinhood Dec 14, 2016 @ 1:47am 
Next feature...

Gyro-Boots!
Zuthor Dec 14, 2016 @ 2:38am 
Originally posted by Young Robinhood:
Next feature...

Gyro-Boots!

Someone Premote this guy
Pembroke Dec 14, 2016 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by Young Robinhood:
Next feature...

Gyro-Boots!

Hmm... or maybe just improve wheel physics? Anyone done as a kid that cool experiment where you sit in a chair that can rotate with a spinning bicycle wheel in your lap and then flip the wheel? :-)
::.:...:.:.::. Dec 15, 2016 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Pembroke:
Originally posted by Stockton:
When you turn your jetpack off you seem to lose all capability to rotate your body around, and can only move your head. This doesn't make any sense.

Well, strictly speaking if you're in free fall and there's no athmosphere then you can't make yourself spin unless you can apply force to something external. Something else must spin the other way. Conservation of angular momentum and all that.

Though, you could take out some item from your personal inventory and spin that which would then make you spin the opposite direction effectively turning you and the object into a reaction wheel like system.

Not that this has much connection to SE physics, of course... :-)

Nope, you definitely can spin yourself in microgravity with no atmosphere. Here's a manual from the US Air Force on how: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/400354.pdf

If you don't believe me, there are countless videos of cats righting themselves in zero-g tests, as well as videos of astronauts moving around the ISS and spinning themselves in a controlled way without pushing off of anything.
Last edited by ::.:...:.:.::.; Dec 15, 2016 @ 11:28am
::.:...:.:.::. Dec 15, 2016 @ 9:32am 
Here's a video that explains it in a simpler manner than the USAF manual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWbpyjJqrU
Last edited by ::.:...:.:.::.; Dec 15, 2016 @ 11:28am
SpetS Dec 15, 2016 @ 10:21am 
I only want this to be possible after they added the magboots :p
::.:...:.:.::. Dec 15, 2016 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by SpetS:
I only want this to be possible after they added the magboots :p

You could definitely make some awesome space-parkour courses with that. Not having the jetpack automatically switch on would be nice too.
::.:...:.:.::. Dec 15, 2016 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by zuthorex:
Originally posted by Stockton:
When you turn your jetpack off you seem to lose all capability to rotate your body around, and can only move your head. This doesn't make any sense. In space you can change your orientation by simply swinging your legs or arms towards the direction you want to rotate in. Is there a reason we can't do this in SE?

It is possible to move yourself from your centre of gravity but you would have to either move your arms and legs around like a maniac. if you want to move yourself into a direction then that is entierly different because you need to have something you can push off of or something you can throw.

Which in the situation of SE you cannot throw anything to move yourself back to your ship because you ran out of hydrogen so its not needed to add the function to rotate your body. Plus you are in a space suit. have you seen astronauts move around in those things. they are as slow as a sloth

The main reason I think we should be able to rotate without using the jetpack is for cool mag-boot usage, or actually being able to look behind you.

And spacesuits probably won't be bulky in the future. MIT already has a concept for skin-tight suits that aren't as restrictive. Check it out:

http://news.mit.edu/2014/second-skin-spacesuits-0918

https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/617047main_45s_building_future_spacesuit.pdf
Last edited by ::.:...:.:.::.; Dec 16, 2016 @ 6:53am
SpetS Dec 15, 2016 @ 2:09pm 
not only rotate without jetpack, also to impulse/push yourself. Not saying it should be in the game coz other games blah blah, but you can do that in Take on Mars for example, and it is a pretty awesome feeling. Moving through your ship in zero gravity.
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