Ship keeps vanishing completely

[Slimurgical (Stormy)]

I keep maknig a small ship, 4 times I placed a landing gear, built it fully and only a couple times did I then add other blocks other than small steel blocks.

Just now, I built half of a ship, and I made sure to add a block like an anntena, which requires power. I go and do some mining and the game completely deletes it like last time.

Really nice to have well over 5K units of Iron just vanish early game. I don't get how my respawn ship or my base doesn't vanish completely, yet a new small ship will do so frequently. I AM building over a frozen lake, but I built the most recent ship on a rocky outcropping.

Why is this happening?

[ShadedMJ]

Ships without power are removed by garbage collection. Use batteries or solar panels.

[Tempus animae]

The only thing I can think of is the option do remove/delete Trash... Every Grid(Ships or anything else...) that is too smal and not powered gets removed.

Did you put a power Source in/on your ships?

[Slimurgical (Stormy)]

No, I didn't. I guess I should make sure to put a small battery on everything even if it's literally a waste of resources compared to normal batteries.

The game should have a better system than that, it's just awful, is there a way to disable it?

[Gorbadon]

Press alt+F10, choose "Trash cleanup" from the drop down list.

You can change settings or suspend trash cleanup there.

[Tempus animae]

Originally posted by StormyStrife:

No, I didn't. I guess I should make sure to put a small battery on everything even if it's literally a waste of resources compared to normal batteries.

The game should have a better system than that, it's just awful, is there a way to disable it?

Yes. Go to the main Menu, then the Load Game part. Select your save and then chose the advanced options.
Somewhere in there is a Check Box for that System. Uncheck and done.

It should not be a Problem for you, but on Server it would make them Chrash after a wile. Just think of ALL the Left over Part from building, battles...

Edit: Sniped by Gorbadon. And his way is faster too XD

[Dan2D3D]

Hi, I play mostly Solo so I set my worlds on "Offline" mode, the option we see on creating the world and I never got anything deleted doing so cause it withdraw all the agressive MP settings.
(that must be done on the very first time I create the world)

In MP = we must power all creations because they will be deleted.

If you are the host = hit Alt+F10 to access the Trash removal settings.


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Veteran trick :
I usually build a large rotor on my station to build cars/ships, spawn a small rotor head on it to build my small ships and never lost any using this method.

This way they are always powered with the station.

[EmberStar]

Using the rotor trick also allows you to start with battery powered ships at full charge. Otherwise you have to build the ship, then immediately dock it and wait for it to recharge fully before it's safe to use it.

You'll still have to fuel a hydrogen thrust ship by hand though, unless you take the time to use Advanced Rotors and Advanced Rotor Heads and work out how to hook your small grid ship up to it using large conveyors. It's not impossible, but depending on the design of the ship you're building it's probably easier to just shove 5000 kg of ice into it.

[lekoge]

Originally posted by Dan2D3D:

Hi, I play mostly Solo so I set my worlds on "Offline" mode, the option we see on creating the world and I never got anything deleted doing so cause it withdraw all the agressive MP settings.
(that must be done on the very first time I create the world)

In MP = we must power all creations because they will be deleted.

If you are the host = hit Alt+F10 to access the Trash removal settings.


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Veteran trick :
I usually build a large rotor on my station to build cars/ships, spawn a small rotor head on it to build my small ships and never lost any using this method.

This way they are always powered with the station. :selike:

Very interesting, but how are we supposed to know unpowered grids get removed before we lose one?

I was so happy I'd finally built a large rover with an ore detector and started to locate ores (I'd played 35hrs without ever finding an iron ore - the f**ing grind!), but then I powered it off and left it with the handbrake on, like I would my car.

10 minutes later, I come back and it was nowhere to be found. I initially thought the handbrake was somehow disabled and I searched for my rover's remains since I'd parked it on a slope.

Then I thought it was a bug and I finally found out it is not!?!?!?!

[Dan2D3D]

@kogigr

Better join a strong Faction, do not go MP to play alone, play with other players that knows the game to build a Safe Zone as fast as possible so you will not lose your creations by Pirate players.

Another good Veteran advice

> Never use the " Y " key in MP

Y = turns Off all blocks and it is a very bad move to do when you need the connectors to stay ON




Edit

Better play Local Solo if you play alone = this way you can set the world in Offline mode and never lose any of your creations.

[lekoge]

@Dan2D3D I am playing solo. It's just that the default Trash Removal distance is 500m! That doesn't make sense!!!

I even loaded a backup save where I'd just left my rover to get my stuff from my dead body (~900m away) and my rover was still gone.

[Dan2D3D]

Originally posted by kogigr:

@Dan2D3D I am playing solo. It's just that the default Trash Removal distance is 500m! That doesn't make sense!!!

I even loaded a backup save where I'd just left my rover to get my stuff from my dead body (~900m away) and my rover was still gone.

Your world save is probably created as a MP world so "Friends only", "Public" and or "Private" and that will add the MP Trash removal settings to your world.

I set my Local world on "Offline mode" the very first time I create the world, the option we see on creating the world and that withdraw all the MP agressive Trash removal settings.

[lekoge]

Originally posted by Dan2D3D:

Your world save is probably created as a MP world so "Friends only", "Public" and or "Private" and that will add the MP Trash removal settings to your world.

I set my Local world on "Offline mode" the very first time I create the world, the option we see on creating the world and that withdraw all the MP agressive Trash removal settings.

I know that now, I just wish I knew it before my rover vanished.

Anyway, at least I've saved the GPS locations of the ores I found. Thnx.

[Dan2D3D]

Veteran advice

Aim at your creation and hit Ctrl+B to save to your Hard Drive C: = F10 in-game.

I save all stages of the construction when I am creating a ship or a station so I can paste back in the previous Blueprint when something goes wrong.

[EmberStar]

For the record, playing in single player does NOT appear to completely disable Trash Removal. It might reduce the aggressiveness of the settings, but the game is still more than happy to delete an unpowered grid the moment you get too far from it.

I was playing the "Learning to Survive" scenario, and I had most definitely created it as a single player, offline game. I started to build a scaffold for a new mining station, flew back to my ship about 700m away and returned to find that the game had deleted the entire scaffold the instant I had gotten too far from it.

The settings may be less aggressive, but they are most certainly still active. The only way to stop it is to use Alt-F10 and completely disable Trash Cleanup. If it ever becomes necessary you can always turn it on again, allow it to rampage through deleting drone corpses and drifting pirate wrecks and then turn it off again.

[EmberStar]

Additional: Good.bot actually makes things worse, because I'm almost certain one of the tutorial tips actually *recommends* using the 'Y' key to completely shut down your ship to save power. With anything even close to the default settings this means that the game will instantly delete the ship the moment it gets the opportunity. The reality is that you should never EVER use 'Y' for any reason.

It's also a terrible idea to get in the habit of using 'P' to set the handbrake. The reason is that this triggers a "Switch Lock" action on every parking brake, landing gear and connector on the current grid. If you happen to be in a ship or station with anything else docked to it, you just instantly undocked everything. Possibly with explosive results.