What's this video about LastStandGamers about?

[JolanXBL]

This post has been edited from the original.

A video I found by accident while looking up SE designs accuses Aaron of LastStandGamers of stealing designs. I realize it's an old topic but as a subscriber to LSG for both his SE and Airsoft videos, I felt concerned and wanted to hear the story. In case this post if stumbled upon later, here's a YouTuber who speaks about the incident at the time (after 7 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHjE5GBlBuE

[casualsailor]

First it's a 2 year old video.

Second, its a slap fight between YT video creators.

Third, LSG was accused of using workshop creations without giving proper credit to the creators.

Fourth, I think if you search LSG's channel you'll find where he responded to the criticisms.

Fifth, no he cannot "have the video removed" for slander. He can file a lawsuit against the creator and if he is successful the court can order the author to remove the video.

Six, he'd need to talk to a lawyer about that and a good one will charge between $300-$600 per hour to have that conversation and probably a minimum of $5000 to file a case with the courts.

[JolanXBL]

Ok cool, those were good answers. Except #1 if it was still going on.
And a link to his response would wrap it up nicely.

*edit: yaa, I can't find that video, I looked at everything marked 2-years ago. Could someone please point me to it?

[TwinChops]

Originally posted by casualsailor:

First it's a 2 year old video.

Second, its a slap fight between YT video creators.

Third, LSG was accused of using workshop creations without giving proper credit to the creators.

Fourth, I think if you search LSG's channel you'll find where he responded to the criticisms.

Fifth, no he cannot "have the video removed" for slander. He can file a lawsuit against the creator and if he is successful the court can order the author to remove the video.

Six, he'd need to talk to a lawyer about that and a good one will charge between $300-$600 per hour to have that conversation and probably a minimum of $5000 to file a case with the courts.

All of that and yes he did "stole" creations/didnt give credits for ages, that why i stopped watching videos from him.

[DrEarlInsanity]

Originally posted by TwinChops:

All of that and yes he did "stole" creations/didnt give credits for ages, that why i stopped watching videos from him.

yea....after this fiasco I never watched any of his things.

[casualsailor]

Originally posted by JolanXBL:

Ok cool, those were good answers. Except #1 if it was still going on.
And a link to his response would wrap it up nicely.

*edit: yaa, I can't find that video, I looked at everything marked 2-years ago. Could someone please point me to it?

I don't have it book marked and am not going to look for it at this late date. I remember watching it at the time and he defended himself by pointing out that in one of the cases where he was accused of not giving credit that he included a link to the workshop item in the description of the video but he never mentioned their name.

People do that all the time. I don't think w4stedspace names every mod they are playing with they simply put links to them in the description.

In another instance someone accused him of copying their "design" and passing it off as his own. In that case he pointed to 3-4 similar designs on the workshop that he had examined before "building his own version."

Like I said, its all a case of "he said" and "he said."

Frankly if you put something on the workshop and someone copies your "design" how much credit are you really due? There's only so many ways to build a guided torpedo or a rover. Once you put something on the workshop it is in the public domain and available for anyone to examine and copy.

It's all just YT creators fighting for clicks. Maybe the complaints are legit and maybe they are not.

[Dan2D3D]

Hi JolanXBL, you are very late to the party.

Yes it's not cool when we see someone publishing Your creations and saying that he is the author.

Let me share something with all of you :

I publish my stuff on the Workshop because I want all of you to have Fun with it, also all can use/republish and adding the proper credit in the item description is always Very Kind.

If you see your ship on the Workshop published by another player = Start by asking kindly because Kindness is the key and usually when it happens to me and I ask kindly >> the member will add my name in the description or hide his item with a sorry post.

So no need to be rude if you see something similar.

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When someone republish a Your Workshop item we usually see the word ''(Worshop)'' before the real item name = that means it's already on the WS and may not be his.


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But please not a new discussion on this again after 2 years, it's Very Old!


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sorry for the mistakes = corrections made ^^

[JolanXBL]

I understand the 2 years date but at the moment I was searching for SE videos, and that one came up. As a subscriber to LSG for both his SE and Airsoft videos, I felt concerned and wanted to hear the story. The video with accusations was easy to accidentally find but not any explainations from Aaron, or in SE's discussions that I saw. I believe in having all of the facts & truths before people should make their conclusions.

[Dan2D3D]

The truth is => It's only a game to have fun and don't forget > Kindness is the key.

[SkidDog00]

Originally posted by JolanXBL:

Says LSG steals people's creations; is that a fact and what has Aaron said about it?
Edit: In case this post if suumbled upon later, here's a YouTuber who speaks about the incident at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHjE5GBlBuE

@JolanXBL
Here is your answer my friend, this explains everything
https://youtu.be/mbe4U-eW680

[JolanXBL]

I already saw that video, that's what I had posted in the first place so it's unnecessary.

[SkidDog00]

Originally posted by JolanXBL:

I already saw that video, that's what I had posted in the first place so it's unnecessary.

Um judging by the views they are similar but at the same time completely different. After watching LSG’s videos following all that controversy he has fixed himself and is giving credit to people he showcases. If you had already seen the video why ask?

[casualsailor]

@MinionJoe, PM me if you need a good lawyer. I've been using Dewey, Chetham and Howe for years and they've never let me down.

[casualsailor]

I'm sure they would be willing to make an argument in your case. As they've told me they can make a good argument whenever I want. At $600/hr they are willing to argue until the heat death of the Universe. You have to love their committment to their clients.

[Lystent]

Originally posted by MinionJoe:

All I know is that whenever I find someone putting together Legos in the same shape as I've already done, I sue their asses.

I do checks to see if it is the same grid I published or not...