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pimmelblo May 29, 2019 @ 3:02pm
Air vent does not refill hydrogen tank in oxygen rich environment
My Hydrogen Tank doesnt get refilled even i have an air vent set on ''depressurize'' directly connected to it.
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Dankenobi1 May 29, 2019 @ 3:03pm 
is this a joke?
pimmelblo May 29, 2019 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by RT:
You can only extract Oxygen from the atmosphere, you need an O2/H2 Generator and ice to make Hydrogen.

oh, was this possible some time earlier? i thought i saw it on youtube some time ago
pimmelblo May 29, 2019 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by Rille Pille:
Originally posted by RT:
You can only extract Oxygen from the atmosphere, you need an O2/H2 Generator and ice to make Hydrogen.

oh, was this possible some time earlier? i thought i saw it on youtube some time ago

i also thought i did this once. maybe i ''accidently'' filled it via a h2/o2 generator
Last edited by pimmelblo; May 29, 2019 @ 3:18pm
pimmelblo May 29, 2019 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by RT:
Originally posted by Rille Pille:

oh, was this possible some time earlier? i thought i saw it on youtube some time ago

I'm not sure if you could fill a Hydrogen tank from the atmosphere before since i only bought the game a little after they added the Oxygen/Airtight update but i can say since that update you need to make it from ice.

im running a small mining ship with some hydrogen thrusters on an earthlike planet rn. it seems like my hydrogen tank is empty soo fast. even though i have very few thrusters installed. any way to prevent this? maybe by optimizing or configure them? and btw what exactly is overriding for?
Terramir May 29, 2019 @ 6:01pm 
i cant fill my *hydrogen* tank in *oxygen* rich atmosphere, there is your answer. (you can make your miner last longer by putting a O2/H2 generator on it and filling it with ice.)
Lander1 (Banned) May 29, 2019 @ 6:14pm 
In Creative Mode the tanks used to fill by themselves, I think they changed that so that they now need to be connected to an O2/H2 generator, but the O2/H2 Gen now produces without needing Ice.

The Thruster Override is exactly what it says on the box. It overrides the throttle input and sets a specific % of thrust.

Don't use Hydrogen on a mining ship, just don't. You should be using Atmospheric engines in an earthlike, and Ions in space. The only time you should be using Hydrogen is early on in space when you haven't found Platinum yet, and for Heavy Lifting ships into Orbit.
Slye_Fox May 29, 2019 @ 7:32pm 
Originally posted by Rille Pille:
Originally posted by RT:
You can only extract Oxygen from the atmosphere, you need an O2/H2 Generator and ice to make Hydrogen.

oh, was this possible some time earlier? i thought i saw it on youtube some time ago
No, it has never been possable.
Bannor May 30, 2019 @ 1:32am 
Wait - you're complaining that air contains no hydrogen? Really???
pimmelblo May 30, 2019 @ 9:58am 
dont blame me lol i understand theres no hydrogen in the air. but maybe like Lander1 said, ive done that in creative and thought so.
pimmelblo May 30, 2019 @ 10:01am 
Originally posted by Lander1:
In Creative Mode the tanks used to fill by themselves, I think they changed that so that they now need to be connected to an O2/H2 generator, but the O2/H2 Gen now produces without needing Ice.

The Thruster Override is exactly what it says on the box. It overrides the throttle input and sets a specific % of thrust.

Don't use Hydrogen on a mining ship, just don't. You should be using Atmospheric engines in an earthlike, and Ions in space. The only time you should be using Hydrogen is early on in space when you haven't found Platinum yet, and for Heavy Lifting ships into Orbit.

thank you for those tips. But on my first atmospheric thruster mining vessel, it run out of energy too fast because i was jsut using batteries without any reactor.
i havent found any silver jet, so i cant build a reactor. Any tips for going into space the first time? i tried once but my hydrogen tank went empty after 2 minutes.
zgrssd May 30, 2019 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Rille Pille:
Originally posted by Lander1:
In Creative Mode the tanks used to fill by themselves, I think they changed that so that they now need to be connected to an O2/H2 generator, but the O2/H2 Gen now produces without needing Ice.

The Thruster Override is exactly what it says on the box. It overrides the throttle input and sets a specific % of thrust.

Don't use Hydrogen on a mining ship, just don't. You should be using Atmospheric engines in an earthlike, and Ions in space. The only time you should be using Hydrogen is early on in space when you haven't found Platinum yet, and for Heavy Lifting ships into Orbit.

thank you for those tips. But on my first atmospheric thruster mining vessel, it run out of energy too fast because i was jsut using batteries without any reactor.
i havent found any silver jet, so i cant build a reactor. Any tips for going into space the first time? i tried once but my hydrogen tank went empty after 2 minutes.
Atmospheric Trusters are for maneuver in Atmospheres.
Ion trusters for Vacuum (wich includes space/really high altitudes).
They do not work in each others realm, with a huge area where neither should give you enough lift to go higher/maintain height.

Hydrogens only advantages are high engine power and that it works equally in and outside of atmosphere. But in turn you need a compeletly seperate infrastructure to run them.

With batteries, you need to give them enough time to actually charge. If it only lasted 2 minutes, you only charged it 2 minutes too.
At 12 MW Production/Consumption and 3 MWh capacity, it takes at least 15 minutes to fully charge or decharge a battery. This can be okay for some civilian applications. But for other stuff, you may want to use nuclear reactors.
Last edited by zgrssd; May 30, 2019 @ 10:12am
zgrssd May 30, 2019 @ 10:19am 
Originally posted by Lander1:
In Creative Mode the tanks used to fill by themselves, I think they changed that so that they now need to be connected to an O2/H2 generator, but the O2/H2 Gen now produces without needing Ice.
In my last test, the Oxygen Tank was half-full on placement.
IIRC, Batteries are also half full (and do not decay).

This allows the Systems to function and testing of the mechanics like refueling in creative mode.
Last edited by zgrssd; May 30, 2019 @ 10:19am
gerald2 May 30, 2019 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Rille Pille:
Originally posted by RT:

I'm not sure if you could fill a Hydrogen tank from the atmosphere before since i only bought the game a little after they added the Oxygen/Airtight update but i can say since that update you need to make it from ice.

im running a small mining ship with some hydrogen thrusters on an earthlike planet rn. it seems like my hydrogen tank is empty soo fast. even though i have very few thrusters installed. any way to prevent this? maybe by optimizing or configure them? and btw what exactly is overriding for?
use atmo thrusters on planet hydrogen thruster eats alot of gas especially in high gravity cause thruster need all time compensate gravity.
add 2 batteries and 2 small reactors if you have uranium ,if you are all up to hydrogens make your base gas station and fill ship tanks there ,gas have no weight in SE afaik but ice have alot so if you carry ice on your ship to refill in flight it makes thrusters to work even harder.
Last edited by gerald2; May 30, 2019 @ 11:32am
PredatorBeing May 30, 2019 @ 1:36pm 
Air vent can be used to fill your oxygen tank in an oxygen rich environment only. That is probably what you saw on youtube. Place the vent on a conveyor connection that is part of the same conveyor system going to your oxygen tank and set to depressurize. I believe if it is placed directly on the oxygen tank itself it doesn't work.
Scooty May 30, 2019 @ 4:31pm 
You need to go down to Tachi Station and get a power converter for your moisture vaporator I think.
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