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lsgenn Sep 20, 2019 @ 8:26am
Economy Update: Store Pricing
Is there a stated reason as to why there is a minimum price for all items? My friend and I are able to mass produce a lot of things and we'd like to sell the items for rather cheap to other players (so we're not just handing stuff out or having to do hand offs) but so far we are being blocked by this minimum price setting. Is there a way around this or to change the minimum for items?
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humanoid.mp4 Sep 20, 2019 @ 12:31pm 
Do player-to-player trade instead of using store block if you want using your own prices or barter
junkydealer7 Sep 20, 2019 @ 1:37pm 
THIS CHANGE F(*^ED UP MY SERVER. WHY the hell would you put a mandatory price on things AAAAANNNNND double the cost of all components which were already too high? Now there is no point whatsoever to start a shop on my server because you can just make componenets for way cheaper than any player can sell for in their shop.
I DONT WANT TO USE PLAYER TRADE FOR EVERYTHING EITHER. I just built a sexy ass shop with automatic gates now theres no reason anyone would visit a shop
junkydealer7 Sep 20, 2019 @ 1:41pm 
The only way to fix this Awful mistake is to make my own price list for every object for sale in the NPC shop I made on the server but then this completely ruins the money scale cuz id have to multiply everything by 2 to overcome your retarded price limit. NPC missions and trade stations would be useless. I see no way to properly overcome this issue
junkydealer7 Sep 20, 2019 @ 1:43pm 
Why would you come out with something so awesome as the economy update then ruin it by taking away all crontrol from server hosts over the prices. The prices you suggested were good at first now they are way off and I cant even ignore them
junkydealer7 Sep 20, 2019 @ 1:46pm 
MAKE AN OPTION TO DEACTIVATE PRICE LIMITS
Ace Mar 7, 2020 @ 4:57pm 
Old thread but I am in agreement. The trade minimum is absurd.
Ace Mar 7, 2020 @ 5:00pm 
https://imgur.com/a/yAzhnXW Like, excuse me what the hell is this?

The minimum price for a single box of gatling ammo is over 100k. Why even bother trading?

I think the player store and NPC stores are improperly tied together for pricing.

In fact, can we talk about this listing fee nonsense as well? Why is that a thing? More artificial gatekeeping from using a mechanic that Keen put in. Why? Why would you design it like this?

Get rid of the listing fees, get rid of the minimum prices, you're going to find the whole trading mechanic suddenly a lot more interesting.
Last edited by Ace; Mar 7, 2020 @ 5:14pm
Troubleshooter Mar 7, 2020 @ 7:48pm 
Keen probably doesn't want players dumping resources under "market value" to prevent players with lucky spawns from getting rich.
Ace Mar 8, 2020 @ 6:47pm 
Players with lucky spawns can already get rich by selling to NPC traders normally, so that doesn't make any sense.

And it still doesn't explain the fees that get piled on for no reason.

What irritates me the most is that you can't even mod this out of the game because listing fees and transaction fees are hard coded as far as I can tell, and if you lower the minimum price to 1 on all items, it lowers the minimum price to 1 for all NPCs as well!
Last edited by Ace; Mar 8, 2020 @ 6:48pm
Ace Mar 18, 2020 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Ace:
What irritates me the most is that you can't even mod this out of the game because listing fees and transaction fees are hard coded as far as I can tell, and if you lower the minimum price to 1 on all items, it lowers the minimum price to 1 for all NPCs as well!

I may be wrong about this because it turns out NPCs can happily trade for prices lower than the minimum price value I find in the code. However, that begs the question of where exactly all of this stuff is handled.

I would like to change the prices with a mod.
lowww Jan 9, 2024 @ 2:06pm 
Nothing is changed in 4 years...
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Date Posted: Sep 20, 2019 @ 8:26am
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