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Bean Dec 22, 2017 @ 2:26pm
How to you move assembler output to a cargo container?
I want to be able to automatically move compenents from my assembler into a cargo container, is that possible?

Right now I'm trying to use a conveyor sorter to move items, but that isn't working.
Originally posted by Bean:
I don't know what I did wrong, but I tried your setup and it worked splendidly. Thank you very much!
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casualsailor Dec 22, 2017 @ 2:52pm 
It's possible to do using the sorter but it has to be a one way connection. This is one of the fundamental problems with the sorter blocks that have never been addressed. If you put a sorter on an Assembler and tell it to pull and throw out parts and then put a cargo box on the other side of the sorter it will drain all parts from the assembler.

But if you have a complete loop ANYWHERE, i.e. any conveyor network which connects between that cargo box and the other side of the sorter then the sorter will pull the parts out of the cargo box, cycle them back thru the assembler and back into the cargo box in an infinite cycle.

I don't think Keen have more than a couple of minutes of thought to this block before creating it.

I've worked out several automated sorting system without using scripts and each one requires that the flow goes only one way and contain a series of powered down sorters to permit you to get back.

Another example. Let's say you want all ore to be pulled from a docking ship and deposited in a cargo box. In a one way path from the connector to the cargo box put a sorter which connects to the cargo box and set it to pull and thow out all ore. But then you will not be able to refresh your oxygen supply or pull uranium thru that same connection unless you put another loop back to the connector with another sorter set to permit Uranium and gases to flow from the base to the ship.

It's a huge mess trying to make sorters work in a practical method.

Here is a tutorial. Note he does not have the shut off back flow so if he would need to get for example Uranium ingots back from the reactor into the assembler to make missiles he'd have to transfer that by hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3kgpLryzmI&t=1s
Bean Dec 22, 2017 @ 2:59pm 
Dang. I'm able to pull ingots of out my assembler, but not crafted components, and there's no reason for me to pull ingots out of the assembler.
casualsailor Dec 22, 2017 @ 3:14pm 
Whitelist components and they should be able to be pulled.
Bean Dec 22, 2017 @ 3:15pm 
I tried that, but it didnt seem to work, im going to send a screenshot of my setup
Voice From Beyond Dec 22, 2017 @ 3:18pm 
Assuming working conveyer connections, ingots are automatically pulled from refineries and storage and items can automatically be pulled from assemblers. Assembers will automatically move items to storage if the assembler's local storage gets full.
Bean Dec 22, 2017 @ 3:19pm 
yes but can you force the items stored in the assembler to be moved into a cargo container?
casualsailor Dec 22, 2017 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
yes but can you force the items stored in the assembler to be moved into a cargo container?

Using this setup.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1240021741

With the Conveyor Sorter set like this.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1240021697

And queuing up 100 steel plates the plates exit the assembler and flow into the cargo box without intervention.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1240021779

Let me see your sorter's settings if that doesn't solve your problem.


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Bean Dec 22, 2017 @ 4:02pm 
I don't know what I did wrong, but I tried your setup and it worked splendidly. Thank you very much!
casualsailor Dec 22, 2017 @ 4:14pm 
You're welcome. Sometimes things don't work in this game and you can power them off and on or grind down a block and then it will work.
eMYNOCK Dec 22, 2017 @ 4:31pm 
hmm...

all the basic setups so far.

backside is, as always... the more sorters one uses the more a station, landing pad, production loop.. you call it... will be bloated.

because of how the sorters work i'd recomment to use a whitelisted passive sorter (allow only ingots and gases) to feed an assembler and a whitelisted active sorter (pull every component and gas) to drain the assembler.

actually.. the described setup forced me to make a separete assembler exclusively for dissassembling... passive-whiteliste for components and other stuff.. and whitelist-pull for ingots.

the very same setup is usable for refineries... pull ore... push ingots.

relating landing pads... the same... i assume nobody wants to load the ore he has delivered to a refinery back in his ship... than its an active sorter for unloading the stuff you want off your ship.. and a parallel passive sorter that is whitelisted to everything you propably want to load into your ship.

and... in rare cases.. an additional passive sorter to manually move the stuff back into the containers...

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and after reading my own text... and the relation to sorters... the entire text is bloated just because SORTERS!
Hazee Daze Dec 22, 2017 @ 6:25pm 
for one way, sorter. to reestablish a complete loop, i time the sorter off and then one connector to lock to the cargo container

that completes the outside loop back from assemblers and components
Chylo Katzuni Aug 11, 2019 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by casualsailor:
Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
yes but can you force the items stored in the assembler to be moved into a cargo container?

Using this setup.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1240021741

With the Conveyor Sorter set like this.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1240021697

And queuing up 100 steel plates the plates exit the assembler and flow into the cargo box without intervention.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1240021779

Let me see your sorter's settings if that doesn't solve your problem.

These links no longer work, and a friend and I are running into similar problems.. Does anyone mind helping us out? (apologies for posting on an older thread, but the links seem to have the answer.)
Voice From Beyond Aug 12, 2019 @ 12:41pm 
If you're having trouble with a conveyor sorter, I would replace the sorter with a regular block (tube, conveyor) to make sure items can pass successfully. When placing sorter make sure the direction of transfer is correct (sorters are directional). Set up your list, white list allows only certain items to pass, black list blocks certain items from passing.

I only use a sorter on my miner, white list stone, and connected to an ejector.

Also keep in mind that small tubes (small sorter) can only transfer small items. Large tubes are one item that can't pass through small tubes.

You can use the 'drain all' option to force the sorter to pull all items through.
Dan2D3D  [developer] Aug 12, 2019 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Chylo:

These links no longer work, and a friend and I are running into similar problems.. Does anyone mind helping us out? (apologies for posting on an older thread, but the links seem to have the answer.)

Normal that they don't work because you opened an old 2017 discussion.

I recommend to create a NEW discussion when the one you found is obsolete and "Dead" because too old and will avoid reports on you from the community about "Necroing"

The game is not the same at all now so all discussions that are 3 months old are obsolete.

Read the forum rule about "Necroing" to know more on what is going on when you open a old dead discussion.

Go to "Necroing" in that pinned green : (post #2)

https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/810938810587978916/

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We have to use Sorter blocks to be able :
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1809378134
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1809375986
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1809373502

Do the basic Engineer testing in a testing world to gain XP and create a NEW 2019 discussion if you still can't so the Veterans and I will help you :selike:


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