Grinds battery* gets scrap metal* WHYYY someone explain to why

[PatrickIV]

wyh do you get scrap metal from batterys now? can i turn it off?

[Loues.S.Cat]

It was a kind of half baked effort to stop and exploit.
Since batteries start out partialy charged, grinding down and rebuilding a battery got you limitless power.

[PatrickIV]

well then when you build start it out with 0 then

[Loues.S.Cat]

That is what I would have prefered but that isnt what Keen went with >.>

[PatrickIV]

Keen is so weird these days

[Prof. hulk]

more like thoughtless most of the time

[PatrickIV]

hm....

[Anrock]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=541501927
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=541217022

[LvlLord]

And you can still exploit it. When you use the slowest grinder and are careful, you can grind a battery below operational state, without grinding an energy cell.Then just weld it up again and the battery is 30% charged.
So I would also suggest a good fix, instead of a half walkaround.

[Loues.S.Cat]

Originally posted by LvlLord:

And you can still exploit it. When you use the slowest grinder and are careful, you can grind a battery below operational state, without grinding an energy cell.Then just weld it up again and the battery is 30% charged.
So I would also suggest a good fix, instead of a half walkaround.

Ohh I didnt realise that...
You know what is more exact then a player with a slow grinder?
The ship grinder with a script controler.
Hey my endless power generator can work again! all I need is to speed up the tick cycle and monitor battery condition closely.
Shame it requires a rotor... but what is one more risk of catastrohpic failure?

[LvlLord]

*lol* I also thought of an automation :)
If you automate it, you might have to partwise weld it up in between.
I think the small battery was more compilcated. Grind it down, clean you iventory, get some parts, weld it up and then grind it down so you grind exactly to the power cell limit because a grind tick might otherwise remove too much.
Don't know if the ship grind is more precise. But keep me informed :)

[MysticMalevolence]

Originally posted by GamerZGhost2015:

well then when you build start it out with 0 then

Then vehicles built with batteries as a primary power source would be unable to charge, since connectors need power, and conveyors need power. Thus all vehicles would either need solar panels or reactors, one of which is impractical and the other of which is difficult to fuel right off the bat.

[Mightylink]

Originally posted by Dylan the Cartographer:

Originally posted by GamerZGhost2015:

well then when you build start it out with 0 then

Then vehicles built with batteries as a primary power source would be unable to charge, since connectors need power, and conveyors need power. Thus all vehicles would either need solar panels or reactors, one of which is impractical and the other of which is difficult to fuel right off the bat.

Who doesn't build a reactor anyway, especially when your making them from a blueprint you need a reactor regardless.

[DrEarlInsanity]

Originally posted by Loues.S.Cat:

Shame it requires a rotor... but what is one more risk of catastrohpic failure?

low? displacement has low jiggle factor

[casualsailor]

It was not a popular decision. But then neither was my suggestion that the ONLY thing one should get when they grind down a block was steel plates. But then that's just me.

[Dantheotherone]

Originally posted by GamerZGhost2015:

wyh do you get scrap metal from batterys now? can i turn it off?

This happened a long time ago, so, I may be fuzzy on the details.

Before planets and maybe even before oxygen, batteries (when built) had a 100% charge.

When it was almost depleted, you could grind it down and rebuild it to have a fully charged battery. If you had a bank of batteries you could go down the line, grinding and welding, and have a fully charged bank in minutes, as opposed to needing any charging time.

Well, Some in the community thought that was unbalanced for survival. Keen then changed it to 30% and turned the power cells to scrap when you grind down the battery.

I hope that clears up any confusion as to the reasons for the current build and disassembly of batteries.

I wish they would of left the 100% charge though. In the real world, when I buy batteries of any voltage or size, they are always fully charged.