So Let Me Get This Straight...

[Jawaka]

I already own RealMyst on Steam. I already own Myst: Masterpiece Edition as well.

But I have to pay extra in order to get RealMyst: Masterpiece Edition?

This sounds like a tasteless money grab to me.

[Comrade St. Nikolai]

Originally posted by Jawaka:

Myst was the best selling PC game of all time until 2002. It's also been ported to a half dozen different platforms and consoles. They can't be that hard up.

That explains the fat ton of non-Myst games they've been releasing since the Myst series wrapped up. Or, no, I'm thinking of, uh... what was that company's name? Oh yeah, "not Cyan".

[bryonhowley]

This game is running on Unity and is a completely new port why should they not try to make some money off of it? And if you already own RealMyst you get a discount anyway. Really $11.99 is not bad at all. Why should you get if for free just because you have a different version of the game? While some games have been updated for free you can't expect all of them to do that. I know Deus EX: Human Revolution Director's Cut was free as was Batman Arkam City GOY but that does not mean that all games will.

The simple fact is this a very good remake and is the best playing version there ever has been and well worth the $11.99 they are asking,if you own RealMyst,.

[Grim(CW)]

Originally posted by bryonhowley:

I know Deus EX: Human Revolution Director's Cut was free as was Batman Arkam City GOY but that does not mean that all games will.

DE:HR DC wasn't free, its was marked down to like $5 though for owners of BOTH the original AND dlc mission.

Batman was only a free upgrade due to the need to remove GFWL from the game and it was just simpler to make one new STEAM version and just hand that out. Otherwise they'd have had to recode each piece of DLC and how it worked from the purchase to the actual use. At best though for the already complete GotY version it was barely a patch.

Neither game was new in any real way, at best DE:HR DC had the yellow/gold hue removed, though in other regards its actually been found lacking vs the original.

[Retrotude]

Originally posted by Jawaka:

Myst was the best selling PC game of all time until 2002. It's also been ported to a half dozen different platforms and consoles. They can't be that hard up.

And after thinking about it for a while I admit that perhaps I'm wrong but it's not as if this game were a forgotten classic that has been unavailable for decades until this remake. RealMyst and Myst Masterpiece Edition were both being sold on Steam and this does make the third remake of the original game.

You realize Cyan has had a tumultuous history with the publishing of their games, right? If you've bought any of the retail releases, chances are you were giving your money to Broderbund and, more recently, Ubisoft. Ubisoft, in fact, is the reason why Cyan doesn't have the rights to Myst III and IV, since they produced the games with a different developer at the helm. Cyan wasn't able to negotiate the rights to those particular games. In fact, Cyan hasn't been making much money off of their own games until they recently gained back the rights to the games they themselves developed. Don't assume that because the original versions are bestsellers, it means Cyan is rolling in the dough.

[Great Memes Immortal Venerable]

Originally posted by Jawaka:

I already own RealMyst on Steam. I already own Myst: Masterpiece Edition as well.

But I have to pay extra in order to get RealMyst: Masterpiece Edition?

This sounds like a tasteless money grab to me.

God forbid Cyan actually charge money for remastered editions of classic games. They even give you a 33% discount for owning the original realMyst, and you are still whining? Jeez.

[Great Memes Immortal Venerable]

Originally posted by BadWhippet:

To be honest, if you already own realMyst and it's working on your kit, then this new version doesn't add a huge amount more (grass and plants are nice, better water, but the buildings all appear to be unchanged). The original realMyst works in Windows Vista, 7 and 8 though needs a couple of compatibility settings otherwise it has bugs and hideous FPS.

I'm only part way into this version, but what I've seen so far doesn't make me feel like I've received a giant upgrade. The game is likely aimed at players who are new to Myst, or maybe those who only bought the original 2D Myst Masterpiece (realMyst I think is a big improvement on original Myst, but that's purely down to taste).

Or those of us who never could manage to get the original realMyst working on our PC's. This is so much better than fiddling with graphics drivers and Quicktime and compatibility settings.

[balloon pikachu]

Bring it down to 9.99 imo

[AuldWolf]

Cyan is just trying to bring in extra funds for Obduction. If you're really so incredibly offended by this, just don't buy it. That is an option you have, yes? Or does an autonomous synthetic chilopodic life form have its many-begunned technotentacly appendages aimed directly at your prefrontal cortex, forcing you to buy it?

And if that is happening... pics or it didn't happen.

[makaspaka]

Originally posted by AuldWolf:

...

That was my favorite of all the forum posts I've read tonight. I'm going to bed with an amused grin across my face.

[Great Memes Immortal Venerable]

This game really is worth what it is priced at right now, imo. An edition of Myst that actually works without lots of fiddling with settings? I bought it immediately.

[amfomy]

Originally posted by Socrates:

This game really is worth what it is priced at right now, imo. An edition of Myst that actually works without lots of fiddling with settings? I bought it immediately.

Yep. This. AND it's on Mac, as well!

[Michael]

Originally posted by Shoes:

And to the people with the 'ermahgerd ur so entitled' spiel, you're missing the point. It's an interesting question that's being raised - just how much needs to be changed to warrant a new title?

Well, nothing or everything. There's no need to buy the game if you already own it and have played it, unless you want to.

But, you cannot expect to get something for free because you bought something else.

imagine next week in the shops there's a tin of beans that says "Improved recipe" - and you say "I bought a tin of beans last week! why should I buy these? I thought the recipe was already the best! these should be free!" you'd sound like a buffoon, no?

[Adeon]

The discount is exactly the price you paid for RealMyst. This game is more expensive, so you are paying for the price difference.

[Zecilus]

Part of the problem is the feeling of deception when particular titles are released with a certain naming. When you think "masterpiece" you think that "no other version will be as good" It is after all, implied by the very definition.

Accounting for the fact that the OP feels like this game amounts to nothing more than a fresh coat of paint (which is debatable entirely by personal opinion) then I can understand his frustration.

I don't know how old most of you posters are, but I remember a time when Capcom would release what felt like 10 different versions of Street Fighter II. Being a loyal fan, you would buy the original, then you notice the original now has a "Champion Edition" and you think Ok that sounds promising. 4 extra characters. Could have been added as playable from the start on consoles but whatever. Sure why not. Then a Hyper Fighting Turbo. Then SUPER Street Fighter II, then SUPER Street Fighter II Turbo, then Super Street Fighter II Turbo X, then Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix etc etc. and things can get a little frustrating.

It's just as bad with Street Fighter IV (Regular, Super, Super Arcade Edition, and now Ultra) What next? Final Super Duper Street Fighter IV Ultra and this time we really mean edition Turbo?

That of course is an exaggerated, although very real example. Again it's a matter of how one would personally perceive remakes. Either as a legitimate restructure or a "fresh coat of paint" In any case, at least with some businesses, it has gotten very blatant and borderline unethical

The movie business and sales through blu-ray and DVDs are just as bad (unrated, director's super hardcore dude-bro editions etc)

Even at a discount, it's easy to see why someone would get offended. Yes companies need to make a living, but not at the expense of insulting their customers.

As far as I'm concerned, the OP isn't acting out of hand. 10 years ago, if I bought something described as a "master piece" edition like the OP described, I would assume "no other versions are better" These days however..

[8-bit_gaming]

Originally posted by Zecilus:

Part of the problem is the feeling of deception when particular titles are released with a certain naming. When you think "masterpiece" you think that "no other version will be as good" It is after all, implied by the very definition.

Accounting for the fact that the OP feels like this game amounts to nothing more than a fresh coat of paint (which is debatable entirely by personal opinion) then I can understand his frustration.

I don't know how old most of you posters are, but I remember a time when Capcom would release what felt like 10 different versions of Street Fighter II. Being a loyal fan, you would buy the original, then you notice the original now has a "Champion Edition" and you think Ok that sounds promising. 4 extra characters. Could have been added as playable from the start on consoles but whatever. Sure why not. Then a Hyper Fighting Turbo. Then SUPER Street Fighter II, then SUPER Street Fighter II Turbo, then Super Street Fighter II Turbo X, then Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix etc etc. and things can get a little frustrating.

It's just as bad with Street Fighter IV (Regular, Super, Super Arcade Edition, and now Ultra) What next? Final Super Duper Street Fighter IV Ultra and this time we really mean edition Turbo?

That of course is an exaggerated, although very real example. Again it's a matter of how one would personally perceive remakes. Either as a legitimate restructure or a "fresh coat of paint" In any case, at least with some businesses, it has gotten very blatant and borderline unethical

The movie business and sales through blu-ray and DVDs are just as bad (unrated, director's super hardcore dude-bro editions etc)

Even at a discount, it's easy to see why someone would get offended. Yes companies need to make a living, but not at the expense of insulting their customers.

As far as I'm concerned, the OP isn't acting out of hand. 10 years ago, if I bought something described as a "master piece" edition like the OP described, I would assume "no other versions are better" These days however..

except 10 years ago we all boght a game that we fell in love with but becuse pepole like him"and maybe you" we are told we are never alowed to have a new version.

im 100% agenst mulpul versions coming out within 3 years of eachother but it has been a long time in this case and a lot of pepole wanted and were willing to pay for that cote of paint just becuse you arnt dose not mean we should not get it