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Jacket 2013 年 11 月 11 日 上午 7:24
remove the penalty slow downs
As soon as I realised that this game had penalty slow downs, I felt immediate dissapointment.

This is one of the reasons Grid 2 was such a joke

I thought this game was a simulation, it might as well be grid 3
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LawnDartLeo 2013 年 11 月 25 日 上午 1:39 
Just invalidate the lap. The slowdown is ridiculous and removes realism. Saying you've been penalized or had your lap invalidated is realism. Penalize lap times, impose a drive through penalty... THAT is realism.
Jeo Nugu 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 3:35 
It's simple, all we're asking is for the devs to make it an option so that individuals can decide for themselves whether they want the penalty on or off. For multiplayer, obviously, it should be on, but again, the individual server admin gets to decide. For single player, it's neither realistic nor a wanted "feature". Like was already suggested, just put a message on the screen that the lap was invalidated and be done with it.

As for the stupid "fix" of simply not cutting the corners, it's very easy to just miss a corner accidentally, even a little bit, and unfortunately, the penalty is too sensitive and it takes a very small amount of going off to trigger the damned thing.
kmanitou81 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 3:49 
引用自 russvox
引用自 realkman666 FR
If you excuse magic slowdown in a simulator, I don't think I can pay attention to anything you have to say.

I excuse a time punishment for people that want to take it serously.

Oh.. and ill look out for you when multiplayer comes on, I take it you'll be the one careering through every chicane on the grass and bouncing off the walls right? Lol
No, I will be pushing you very gently off track so that your engine loses 75% of its power.
trb 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 5:10 
incase some dont know..

Practice mode = no penalties
Hotlap mode = penalties
最后由 trb 编辑于; 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 5:11
TheWired 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 6:21 
if this is about going off the track and driving thought the grass, i feel that the grass alone is anough to send a car fliping, and well i always cut corners... to a certian extent and the way y'all are puting it if one weel goes off the track then you "slow down" to a crawl? i don't get it time penalties are enough. and to tell the truth there is a curtain Slow Down when on grass. Grass has higher friction and more resistance to being trampled over and if you have a front wing your a "lawn mower" HAHA anyway don't go off track is my advice and one wheel is fine 2 weels is fine iif no more than 5% of the car is off track... and on a streight away those 2 wheels off track can make you spin out BTW.
Maverick 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 7:57 
If I am in the grass, I didn't cheat. I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. Making me drop below 50km/h when I am spinning out of control at 250km/h is kinda.... absurd.

Get rid of it. Just make the grass thick and sticky with a soft substrate.
Zorg_DK 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 11:02 
another vote to make speed penalty optional.
PeskyHalfling 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 11:13 
The problem the penalty is trying to fix is the people who will completely cut large sections of the track, like chicanes and alternate layouts.

However I feel like offline it shouldn't be a thing, at all. If you play against AI like I will be, you're only taking the fun and enjoyment out of the whole idea when you pass half the field by going around a chicane.

Online, and hotlap challenges with leaderboards need a penalty system. Hotlaps would be rather simple, 2 tyres need to be on the 'on-course' area at all times, otherwise invalidated lap, 1 or 2 second throttle cut (think about it, some tracks you could potentially take a few seconds off the next lap time by cutting the last corner alot, invalidated time would only be for the CURRENT lap, still having an advantage for the next).

Online races, as in PVP type....that's a whole different bucket. There needs to be a penalty system like what we currently have. The only issue I have with it right now is the instant throttle cut. For those of us who have or will be racing in leagues, it's going to do more damage than anything, we need the throttle to help us get out of spins if we get a bit too far off track and lose the grip. Now for public races, as it is right now is good....simply because in my experience there's a whole bunch of trolls, ♥♥♥♥♥ and disrespectful people plaguing online race games. Sims aren't immune to it sadly, I lost count of the amount of times I've been in a race and had someone do nothing but take everyone out. A throttle cut and slow down penalty will go a long way to stop those sort of people cutting the track to do that.
最后由 PeskyHalfling 编辑于; 2013 年 11 月 25 日 下午 11:14
Maverick 2013 年 11 月 26 日 下午 1:01 
引用自 Bigrt
The problem the penalty is trying to fix is the people who will completely cut large sections of the track, like chicanes and alternate layouts.
Show warning flag and then black. Drive through. Done. Will work in all scenarios.

What if you're pushed off the track? Perhaps with some good AI, we should be able to flag the "troll" for barging and the penalty would not apply to the bargee.

Cutting throttle or any artificial inhibitor is obscene. Keep it real from the getgo.
Jeo Nugu 2013 年 11 月 26 日 下午 6:48 
引用自 7rb
incase some dont know..

Practice mode = no penalties
Hotlap mode = penalties

Was that changed in the update? Because when I played the initial release, there were still penalties in both modes.
ShamefulManny 2013 年 11 月 26 日 下午 7:56 
Yup, changed in the update.
delirivmcordia 2013 年 11 月 26 日 下午 9:25 
引用自 SAi
A more intersting question is

Does anyone LIKE the fact that this game has slow down penalties?

Once I'm on track with other people, yes.
It's certainly better than wreckless idiots continually driving straight through chicanes.
Virtual Stig® 2013 年 11 月 27 日 上午 3:08 
RULES of any real racing is you can NOT cut corners, if you are getting penalties for cutting corners then you deserve it, always drive within the track limits, this is a sim without any corner cutting bugs like most other games have, so you are getting a penalty becauae you are driving like an idiot, dont be an idiot and you wont get a penalty, simple.
Maverick 2013 年 11 月 27 日 上午 3:25 
引用自 FangioGP I SLI-FX®
RULES of any real racing is you can NOT cut corners, if you are getting penalties for cutting corners then you deserve it, always drive within the track limits, this is a sim without any corner cutting bugs like most other games have, so you are getting a penalty becauae you are driving like an idiot, dont be an idiot and you wont get a penalty, simple.
So let's talk rules of "real racing". Start by telling me which races apply 50km/h or a time limit for running in the grass?

Then tell me if a half black flag is issued for a drive through after - usually 2 - warnings are issued for intentionally cutting corners. No warning is issued for accidently running off track unless you are considered as driving dangerously or have no reason to have done so.

Even the worlds best put their tyres in the grass. They do not get penalised.

AC needs to invalidate entire lap for multiple infringements or force a drive-through for *2 or more infringements* (specifically when AI/MP starts).

It's a racing sim, not an arcade game.

FIA Rule: Drive-through penalties are normally imposed for minor offences, for example crossing the white line at the end of the pit lane before passing over the end of the line, kerb-hopping at chicanes, ignoring yellow flags, or cutting corners.
最后由 Maverick 编辑于; 2013 年 11 月 27 日 上午 3:58
Virtual Stig® 2013 年 11 月 27 日 上午 4:36 
引用自 Maverick
引用自 FangioGP I SLI-FX®
RULES of any real racing is you can NOT cut corners, if you are getting penalties for cutting corners then you deserve it, always drive within the track limits, this is a sim without any corner cutting bugs like most other games have, so you are getting a penalty becauae you are driving like an idiot, dont be an idiot and you wont get a penalty, simple.
So let's talk rules of "real racing". Start by telling me which races apply 50km/h or a time limit for running in the grass?

Then tell me if a half black flag is issued for a drive through after - usually 2 - warnings are issued for intentionally cutting corners. No warning is issued for accidently running off track unless you are considered as driving dangerously or have no reason to do so.

Even the worlds best put their tyres in the grass. They do not get penalised.

AC needs to invalidate entire lap or force a drive-through for *2 or more infringements* (when AI/MP starts).

FIA Rule: Drive-through penalties are normally imposed for minor offences, for example crossing the white line at the end of the pit lane before passing over the end of the line, kerb-hopping at chicanes, ignoring yellow flags, or cutting corners.




This is a game, there are no drivers briefings before a race and there is no independant race stewards to say were cutting corners or going wide is ok, so with that in mind it is impossible to make a code that resembles true independant rules. Every game code is written in either black or white, there is no grey area, so the penaty system in game is there so everyone get the same penalties, as you have already explained you know the penalties so you know not to go off track, if you can not drive within the track limits or within the game penalty system then you need to improve your drivng skills, there is no way the game can read your mind and know if you made a mistake or if you deliberately cut the corner, so you will recieve a penalty which in turn will make you a better driver, which i hope it does for us concerned who can drive without going off track when multiplayer is online.
You can get drive through penalties for continuosly cutting corners and gaining an advantage, and yes the best drivers in the world do cut corners and go wide some times, if in the driver breifing before the race they are warned not to, then they do it, they will be penalised, but you cant have driver briefings in AC unless you have league races which the penalty system maybe turned off. So that puts us back on the AC penalty system which works fine for me and others in my group, the rules are the same for everyone, no one is gaining an advantage apart from the people who can drive properly, so you are rewarded for not going off track and penalised when you do. This is the best option to let the best drivers race fairly upfront and let the not so good drivers race behind and practice their skills with other drivers who are not so good.

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