Manual transmission option on all cars

[HastelloyW]

Many people including myself prefer a manual transmission over automatic, semiautomatic, or paddleshift, etc. I want to suggest allowing manual transmission on all cars. In addition to having a preference over other transmission modes, my wheel also does not have paddle shifters and automatic shift really takes the pleasure out of driving.

[Arya]

Wouldn't be very realistic, plus-many car brands have already ceased to make Manual models, and I can only think of two racing categories that still use them-and neither of them are in this game.

[HastelloyW]

If you're going to be so nitpicky about realism then why allow options like keyboard steering, controller steering, auto clutch, auto braking, no tire wear, and etc. but not allow an option for manual gear shifting on any car? None of those things are realistic and some of them may even be considered advantageous. Manual gear shifting on the other hand, is slower than any other transmission type and offers no advantage so it cannot be considered a balance issue.

[rudski]

I would prefer to have the tranmission that is present in the car included only.

At the end of the day we will all have fun, BUT, it's sim first game later imo. That means always attempting to go for realism over gaming features if you get what I mean.
Restricting controllers to just steering wheels was done before by hardcore sim, they also didn't attract the right amount to sustain the projects. A bit of give and take is required.

We need this sim to appeal to the masses but at the same time stay true to the sense of sim before game.

Just my 2 cents

[Arya]

Sorry if I seemed nitpicky, I probably should have worded my post a lot better.

In my personal opinion, a good compromise would be to follow Rfactor 2's lead and let people with gated shifters drive all cars as per a manual. The system works quite well; it's not anywhere near as detailed as what the OP wants, but it's as easy as pie to program.

[HastelloyW]

No, that's exactly what I want. I don't care if the in-game model still has paddle shifters, I just want to be able to change gear with a stick instead of resorting to autoshift since I don't have paddles.

[Arya]

I understand. My wheel has both a gate and paddles, normally I like to use the gate when I can but unfortunately AC's gate support at the moment is terrible-about the only huge flaw the game has. Hopefully it'll improve within the next series of patches-right now my gate is completely useless to me.

[rudski]

what do you mean by gate support - noob here :D

[Arya]

Steeringwheel controllers come in two main varieties with the difference being the gearshift mechanism.

Paddle-shift wheels have two "paddles" mounted on the steering column for gearshifts. Pull the left one for a downshift, the right for an upshift. There's no need for a clutch, and they're compatible with almost any car. Paddleshifts are found in nearly all modern sports cars, as they're very user-friendly and work well with modern sequential and semi-autmoatic gearboxs.

The other option is a "gated" shifter or "true manual. These are what you'd find in older sports cars and some cheap modern cars. These have a gearstick mounted to a metal "gate"(which is usually hidden under a leader shroud) You engage a gear by moving the lever to a corresponding part of the "gate" and then releasing the clutch. Players love gated shifters for their challenge and realism, but like the Manual transmissions they simulate, they're a dying breed.

A couple of wheels-like the G27-come with both options, and most racing games "support" (allow the player to use) either option. Assetto Corsa currently doesn't have very good support for "gated" shifters which makes using them difficult for the players who own one.

[simewn]

What do you mean not a good support? Either it works or not. In a G27 wheel it works. I also like using fully manual transmission so I enjoy driving cars that have it. It is part of the enjoyment and it gives variety to the game. If you have every option it becomes dull in my opinion. But it is something that can easily happen and maybe it will. No real problem there.

[P-eLko]

Just buy some seq shifter, for example th8rs. I dont see point why you want to race only with h-pattern. It is such a nonsense with openwheelers etc.
I would be really happy if there will be MP server option that all racers must shift with proper shifting method of each car. Not like in other sims where all players racing only with paddle shifters because it is fastest method.

[pennarguy]

I don't know about paddle shifters always being the fastest; maybe yes as far as changing gear is concerned, but I find that with the "H" shifter you don't change gear as often and learn to take corners in third say instead of second and faster in consequence. Go back some years in F1 when it was all "H" shifters; I don't think they were any slower. It's all about rpm really.
Myself, I use both.

[P-eLko]

For sure seq shifters with autoblip are much faster than hshifters. Throttle down, clutch, shift up, release clutch, throttle up (or even heel & toe version of downshifts) vs one click.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by rudski:

I would prefer to have the tranmission that is present in the car included only.

At the end of the day we will all have fun, BUT, it's sim first game later imo. That means always attempting to go for realism over gaming features if you get what I mean.

OP has got a very valid point, Rudski also has a valid point.

My view. There's no reason "realism levels" can't be - selectable.

[BeggarRu.SifonEn]

it's PITA, for sure. AC lacks this option to use any car with h-shifter, and its a major drawback for me. besides not being able to drive with h-shifter, it's not possible to know which car has which ♥♥♥♥♥♥. yes, i can find that out with some research, but why other completely unrealistic options are OK, but not manual for all cars. that is stupid, in my opinion. how many of you guys have drove ALL these cars in real life, and how many of you ever will? i bet none of you. they could at least have a selection option by ♥♥♥♥♥♥ at car selectin. i have a th8rs, but i drive it only in h-option.

[BeggarRu.SifonEn]

just found an option to choose only manual cars. but it still sucks not to able to use it for all of them.