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There is zero reason to not get a Direct Drive wheel now.
I want to get a set up because it seems like they best way I could replicate driving fast without actually doing it on public roads and crashing into other people. And my car isn't something I'd want to take to a private track, which is what I would do if I had the money. So going with a sim set up would be far, far cheaper, lol.
At the moment. I'm just a legend in my own mind. Visualizing myself drifting around corners and whatnot. But actually doing it is another story. I don't want to come into it cheap, but I also don't need the top of the line stuff. The T300 seems like a good middle ground, but there's also so many options. I'd have to do some good research. I always see people saying you can get a fanatec bundle for around the same price, if not cheaper.
That said if you suck at driving IRL (deathgrip or slow to react) its not gonna go better here. But otherwise its hard to be bad at it if you play some other games. At best what could happen is that you won't enjoy it for non wheel related reasons (wrong game type, no time).
But what to buy is a different story. Any wheel can be good depending on budget, including G29 still. That said there are some good new releases that both G29 and T300 lag behind, so it really depends on what kind of deal you can find. Just make sure you dont fall into "wheelbase is everyting" trap and get drained by having to buy peripherals that actually matter separetely later.
Well, I can't necessarily say how good of a driver I am because I've never driven at high speeds on public roads. Just the speed limit. But I'd like to think I'm not a ♥♥♥♥♥ driver either. I kind of get the concept of driving fast and lines etc.. I'm sure it'd be way easier on a game because you don't get that dreaded feeling of speed, acceleration and losing control in a video game compared to real life, and crashing isn't really a big deal at all in a video game. I've played a ton of Trackmania Stadium, lol. So I have that going for me I guess.
I'll probably end up getting something when I can catch it on sale. It's definitely not something to take lightly because of the cost. And I have to determine how much I'd play. That seems to be the most important hurdle. I want to drive fast and do the whole shifting gears on a stick, and a sim is the safest way to do it next to driving on a course with no traffic to worry about. Would be cool if there was a place where I could test a sim set up out. I have a microcenter near me, but I don't think they have a set up for the public.
Watching too much Inital D and MF Ghost has me wanting to make an impulsive buy, lol. I need to calm down and think rationally. But the Thrustmaster300RS Gt with pedals is $450. That doesn't seem too bad, and maybe it will go on sale for black Friday or the Christmas holidays.
I turned around and sold my first set of pedals at a great price to a friend. I also found him a Thrustmaster T150 wheel for a good price. He has no money so he couldn't go with a DD wheel/base. As a side note, because he had no money, we built him a rig out of spare lumber I had. I modeled it after my next level rig. To be honest, if I had known it would turn out that good I would have built myself one
My last point is, I've driven his and mine. I would not be happy with his setup and anything less than a direct drive wheel and a load cell brake pedal. Maybe that's a shortcoming on my part. But I think I would get frustrated and give up on it. As it is, I love my setup, and the only frustrating part is me sometimes...
Yeah I'm not too keen on buying used electronics, especially stuff that expensive. Just because you never know what it went through while they had it.
I won't deny that it's a good option to save some money, but. It comes with a risk. If I buy it from a proper dealer, at least if something goes wrong with it I can contact them and get an exchange or whatever. Spending the extra is worth the security for me.
Also, lol on the rig revelation. I've been contemplating between building one myself or simply buying one. Building seems like a good idea since you can make it to the specs you want, plus bring cheaper.
Nothing wrong with that logic. If you're not comfortable with used, then you shouldn't do it. But if that's the case, RaiderDave's advice is the way to go. The T300 is is their version of direct drive, is it not? And the TLCMs have a load cell brake pedal. Not having those two things (IMHO) are deal breakers for me after driving a rig that doesn't have them. Maybe I'm just spoiled...
I thought maybe the official website would have different bundles or that I could buy the wheel with the base or whatever alone, but that doesn't seem to be the case, unless I didn't look in the right spots.
But, before you go any further, what are you playing on? PC, one of the PSs, or Xbox. It looks like some of their stuff only works with some of those. Unless I'm reading it wrong the T300 doesn't work with Xbox?
And you're right I think. I don't see where you can mix and match to buy what you want. You have to take a cheap pedal set with your wheel/base and then add TLCM pedals if you want to keep it all the same brand, Thrustmaster.
If you're playing on a PC you have more options I think. My friend is using a Thrustmaster T150 wheel and base (used, that's all he could afford) and Fanatec base model pedals he bought from me for cheap because I moved up to a Fanatec load cell brake and pedals.
I guess I'm arguing the point so strongly because the price between an entry level direct drive is just too close to a T300 with belt drive...
Yeah it kind of sucks that I/you can't buy the stuff separatel. I'd like to get the stuff that's just above the entry level stuff if I'm going to spend that much on it already. Is what it is, I guess, lol.
The wheels with the belt drive is the one I want, right? As far as above entry level stuff? That's kind of what I've seen, just want to be sure.
Also wonder what new stuff is out that may be around the same price. But I've seen the T300 is still a super solid choice even though it's a few years old. Some of those other bundles are pretty spendy! $800 is kind of pushing it, lol. On their website, I see a EVO Racing 32R wheel that's $350 and some Fanatec LC pedals for $200. Not sure if it's all compatible, but it's $50 less than the Thrustmaster ones.. I'll have to do a bit of research.
If your budget is below <$500 go for the Logitech G29 bundle, with 3 pedals and H shifter for around $300, and use the rest to buy a nice affordable sim rig for around $100-200 to hold everything in place perfectly.
If your budget is above >$500 go for the Moza R5 bundle which is a direct wheel drive wheelbase, unlike belt driven G29, so everything will feel better, smoother, better FFB, better build quality, etc.
I bought the G29 2 years ago a couple of days after I bought AC and I told myself I'll use it for a year and if I'm still interested in sim racing, I'll upgrade to better gear, but after 2 years it's been such a good wheel and especially pedals, that I haven't felt any need or rush yet. But when I see a good sale or opportunity, the Moza R5 is in my sights, unless a better DD option for the price comes along.
Good luck
First, good you're on PC. I think it's easier to mix and match accessory brands. Again, I could be wrong, maybe it's just as easy on consoles.
Second, no, given a choice, you'd want to go direct drive, not belt driven. I'm pretty sure nobody here would argue that point.
Third, at least on PC, you can mix and match brands. You just need to have separate USB ports. Most of the brands, their pedal sets are meant to plug into the wheel base, I think. But as long as you have multiple USB ports on your PC you can mix and match. Like I said, my friend has a Thrustmaster wheel and fanatec pedals.
That EVO wheel you were talking about is only for the wheel. You still have to buy a wheel base. You're looking at another $230 for the T300 wheelbase. So now you're looking at $580 for just the wheel and base (plus tax and shipping) and you don't have pedals yet. $250 for T-LCM pedals. So now you're looking at $830 (plus tax and shipping).
Or you can go T300RS bundle with so-so pedals $450 (plus tax and shipping) from Amazon. When you get tired of the stock pedal set, add the load cell pedal set, $250. So now you're at $700 minus whatever you can sell you're stock pedals for.
Fanatec Bundle 5nm direct drive base and wheel and 2 pedal set, $400. Add loadcell pedal, $140. $540 (plus tax and shipping).
Or you could go with a Moza bundle. But you can't buy the load cell pedal separately.
Are you dizzy yet? I am.