so cars can really handle max revs?

[hooligan|uk]

I love this game I really do,just got my wheel and the feel and driveabilty of every car is like nothing Ive ever tried before.

But I been racing mainly round spa and mugello and was wondering why the leaders were on average 5-10 seconds quicker than me,so I done what every self respecting racer should do and spectacte them.And what do I see,cars that are so high geared that on straights they are revving the absoulute crap outta the car,with a very low top speed.But were able to brake and then accel outta the corners inhumanley fast..it was crazy kinda makes a mockery outta the word 'sim' when a car is revving to its max for ages and the engine not getting damaged.

Oh and damage was on,so I couldnt scrape a wall without my car exploding.But cars can survive max revs for long periods and just carry on.

[Actionjackson]

you can say max rev motor damage or blow up was roughly fixed in 60ies and 70ies on mulsane straigth and similar places. since than its no longer common for it to happen, maybe it was common in F1 for longer time(renault tubos motors and stuff).

thats roughly it. we nailed down motor design and construction since a long time. cumbustion motors are over 100 years old, plenty of time to get it right.

edit; max revs arent bad at all if the motor is made to take it. my125cc 2stroke roadbike can reve over red line all day long, till something goes, but generally that is after thousends of kilometers. i rev it up to where it cant process any more air and is by that self limiting, roughly at 12-13k rpm.

[Actionjackson]

to add, what i said does not mean there is the same amount of wear on the motor part with low and high RPM´s, but that the wear of the parts is not so drastic these days as it once was. engine cooling and lubrication greatly advanced.
you still got "better chance" of motor failure today as back in the old days, when you max rev the motor, but the likelyness of it to happen was drastically reduced in last 30 to 40 years.

[hooligan|uk]

but it just dont seem 'natural' maybe Im being a sore loser/anal nerd I dunno just dont look or sound right to me..

So too be competitive I have to have a car thats screaming at me down the straights?

[Roble]

Thats not true at all mate. I sometimes change my gearing but never so im maxing it out! Changing at the right time is the quickest way round any track, not revving the nuts off it! Try getting involved in a racing league like i am, definitely the best way to race clean and without any ♥♥♥♥♥!

[Marty]

On servers spectaing isnt always showing everything due to hz rate and lag but if you can get a look at a quicker guys replay file it will show you more. At Spa in most cars gearing is pretty critical as the climb out of Eau Rogue is pretty steep and if your gearing is a bit off you will lose quite a bit going up there. Some cars are better off running on the limiter for a bit then struggling at very low RPM in top gear. Only a few cars do suffer lots of damage at max RPM but some you just set the limiter a bit lower and then you dont need to worry. Cars such as the Mazda 787b I found I needed to set engine limit to 95 or 96 to avoid damaging engine on downshifts and also hitting high RPM would cause engine damage.

The lotus 98T also doesnt like too many revs but GT cars are fine and can be run close to or even on the limiter for a bit. V8 supercars for example have set ratios per track and the cars regularly bounce off the limiter at the end of the fastest straight.

Still I dont think this is where you will be costing yourself 5-10 seconds, its more down to the exit onto the fast sections such as t1 at Spa is critical because every kmh moer you gain on exit you carry all the way up the hill, same as the last right hander onto the long back straight section past Blaunchimont.

If you run a live delta you should easily see how you can gain a second ot 2 in each of these secitons just by getting a better exit. Carrying speed through Eau Rogue is also critical but ,amu guys a fair bit off the pace lose all their time by poor braking took late and too hard, missing the apex where you can lose a huge chunk of time in the next straight. You can gain maybe .05 on a perfect stop but lose over a second slightly overcooking the entry.

[Actionjackson]

normaly i am used to setting it up so i red line short befor i reach the end of the longest straight of the track.
i mean if you redline at the beginning of the longerst straight in last gear, that is to much. it should reach max rev in last gear before end of longest straight.

basicly you want to accelerate as long as possible, but you dont want ANY gear or part of a gear you can not use at all cause you never reach it.
so if you drive spa and max out revs in 6th gear like 300m after eau rough, its to early, if you reve out 300 meter befor the strait end its good.

what track are you talking about? has it any long straight at all? if it has no long straight at all, a setup that maxes out very fast and just grinds through the gears may work. on the fast tracks with long straight i am not sure you get anywhere if you max out to early.

i am sure there are people more qualified than me for this, but still.

[Kosmozuikis]

So do the same?

[rudski]

Originally posted by Kosmozuikis:

So do the same?

In all honesty and I hope it's not taken as rude but if people are 5-10 seconds faster per lap then the OP, gearing changes alone would not do it.

[hooligan|uk]

I cant be nigel without the legendary moustache ;)

[nop_jne]

5-10s means you are getting owned on every piece of the track. You need some sort of analyzer. Would be cool if someone ported iSpeed for AC.

[Game Over, Man]

More wear and tear on the motor from high RPMs, absolutely.