Physics Abarth 500 SS

[Lord Godai]

I'm running into a physics issue.

First, I run semi-slicks on my MS6 and take 90 degree corners at 50-55 km without loosing traction and slight squealing of the tires. I chatted with a friend that owns and Fiat Abarth and she tells me she easily takes 90 degree turns at 40 km and no tire squealing.

Here's my issue, in practices, I'll take 110-120 degree turns at 50-55 km and much to my surprise, there's loss of tracks, squealing of the wheels and under-steering more times than naught.

Can someone explain why I loose traction and get under-steering while taking a 110-120 degree angle turn at 50-55 km?

[Talkie Toaster]

I've mentioned the understeer a few times and get shot down every time, it's probably not even worth mentioning on here.

Apart from the low speed understeer I love the physics, I just think the strong point is high speed physics rather than low speed.

[robertedell]

I just took the Abarth out to Vallelunga Club and could not duplicate the problem. I can take wide turns much faster than 55 km without loosing traction and on the tight corners the front wheels break traction and I get the expected understeer of a FWD car.

[robertedell]

Originally posted by Duane Dibbley:

I've mentioned the understeer a few times and get shot down every time, it's probably not even worth mentioning on here.

Apart from the low speed understeer I love the physics, I just think the strong point is high speed physics rather than low speed.

Yes some cars have a suprising amout of understeer at low speed. However in cars with the tunning options such as brake bias, anti-roll bar and diff settings that low speed understeer can generally be corrected.

[Talkie Toaster]

Originally posted by robertedell:

Originally posted by Duane Dibbley:

I've mentioned the understeer a few times and get shot down every time, it's probably not even worth mentioning on here.

Apart from the low speed understeer I love the physics, I just think the strong point is high speed physics rather than low speed.

Yes some cars have a suprising amout of understeer at low speed. However in cars with the tunning options such as brake bias, anti-roll bar and diff settings that low speed understeer can generally be corrected.

Yeah true, I always kind of liked the understeer in the little Fiat as it's an excuse to make use of the lift-off oversteer lol.

[Lord Godai]

I'm guessing you never heard back from the developers. I'm having to ride the brake, resulting in poor performance. It's that or slide off the pavement. I've done every tweak I can find and nothing works. BTW - I haven't installed any modes. It's all default from Kunos.

Originally posted by Duane Dibbley:

I've mentioned the understeer a few times and get shot down every time, it's probably not even worth mentioning on here.

Apart from the low speed understeer I love the physics, I just think the strong point is high speed physics rather than low speed.

[rudski]

Can you post a video? Pain in the butt I know but it would be easier to pin point if there is a problem.

[Talkie Toaster]

I did have a dev reply to a post saying it was as designed pretty much, my post at the time was regarding the low speed understeer in the 458 - I had my brother sat driving it with a G27 after driving a real one around an airfield all day.

Everyone else just said that mine and my brothers perception of speed was wrong lol, which is a bit stupid as we were watching the speedo on screen.

It's all good though, I just don't drive the 458 cus I don't like how it drives but the rest of the cars are very enjoyable to me. The high speed physics feel much more realistic which is what matters in a racing simulator.

[Marty]

I generaly get the rear sliding on this car, its all down to how you drive it. If you come in to the turn too hot brake too hard and late its going to understeer. Thats the same with any car and if you cant make the apex and run even half a car wide then you entered the corner too fast.

Slow down more on entry to get the car turned in, this car is also prone to lift off oversteer so if you get off the gas too quick on entry the rea will slide. Then being a fwd car any time you spin the front wheels you get instant understeer as you steer the same wheels that drive the car.

This is where a fwd car like this teaches you quite a bit about car handling. If it ever gets loose give it some power to xreat understeer and straighten the car. But simply understeering on entry without throttle means your not handling the weight shift too well and braking needs work. Once you get the balance for the car on your inputs you canget this to do just about anything. I tend to make it get loose on entry rotate the rear into the apex then give it power to straighten it out of the exit.

This is a good car to learn on as saving it when very loose is easy just add throttle. You just need to improve braking technique in order to avoid pushing wide thrpugh the apex.