AC just a hotlap sim?

[Marty]

I see lots of people say AC is just a hotlap simulator, no idea why as I rarely ever run hotlaps and nearly all my time is online racing. Either on my public servers or in League events and I couldnt care less about hotlapping I just love having a good battle. I can easily win races but these get rather boring starting from the front and winning, get a little further back amongst good drivers and racing can be awesome. Not sure why but I have more fun when I give it everything and not win then if I win easily. Also people that say ac mp is only gt racing really need to try some other cars too. GT cars are fun but so many good cars why limit it to 1 type of car.

Here is a reverse grid race in our league last nite in the 235i.

http://youtu.be/LKDnfoq0iPg

Here is some racing in my public server in the Alfa GTA.

http://youtu.be/unK1mLsiy2g

[rudski]

Best league in Aus!

[quf]

People are just too used to RSR livetiming, to 26ºC and to Optimum surface.

Experiment having an A.I or Online race with Dusty, Slow, or Green surface grip, and put around 15ºC. This will be fun and not that easy to win and pass everyone. Even some of the A.I drivers will retire because they might overshoot the road and hit some wall or other car. The weather type also influences asphalt temperature. Want even more challenge, put road tyres for cars that have the option, instead of semi-slicks or slicks.

To me, Assetto Corsa is a great game, and not just for hotlapping on your own. But you really gotta use more realistic weather/track settings. The driving gets more challenging, but in the good way, since it requires more accurate driving/racing technique, while with optimum surface you can just throw the car around.

[quf]

Originally posted by mr munkee:

Do you run your servers from your computer or is it a server you rent? The physics of other cars in your replay looks better than anything I've seen online, car movement never looks that smooth for me. I assume if it's on your computer, you're in the "real" version of what's happening, so all the physics would look better. But IDK if that's how it works.

Your cpu and ram still matters for Online racing, the same way as in offline races against A.I
I haven't noticed any differences in fps performance between an offline and online race.

But the image/screen doesn't look smooth in multiplayer racing, as in offline?

ps. Marty, make those videos public, too good to stay unlisted :)

[quf]

Originally posted by mr munkee:

I don't mean performance, I mean the representation of the physics of the other players. In his videos it looks perfect, the suspension of the other cars looks good and they aren't "netcode-sliding" around, maybe I've just never been in a server where everyone had a good connection.

It can be down to a combination of players ping, server configuration, netcode.

I've raced Online at magione with the alfa gta, and everything seemed normal. About the tyres sticking to the ground in online race, while the car body raises abnormally in car accidents with other online players, is down to the car modelling animation. I think it has to do with:

"Only cars with animated suspension show the wheels leaving the ground in MP currently.
Aris has said that they are working on a fix, but apparently it isn't simple. (or it would have already been implemented)"
Quoted from here: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/alfa-gta.21739/#post-416023

[-=STONE ISLAND=-]

I like hotlapping but then I like normal racing too. I would love to be able to race online but my connection is slow only 3mb at the best of times so when I go online I sometimes don't see others around me. So instead of facing a ban I just stay away. Some people I guess just like to drive. Besides, it's not just a Racing Simulator some people just like to cruz around a track on a Sunday afternoon lol

[Marty]

Originally posted by mr munkee:

Do you run your servers from your computer or is it a server you rent? The physics of other cars in your replay looks better than anything I've seen online, car movement never looks that smooth for me. I assume if it's on your computer, you're in the "real" version of what's happening, so all the physics would look better. But IDK if that's how it works.

Server is min but hosted with Amazon, its a dedi that I run 5 servers off. The league server is pretty much the same as mine but just slightly faster and it only runs the one server on race nit.

The Alfa race on the Public server had pings from 20 to 300 but league we are all aussies and the odd New Zealander with pings under 100. Have a couple guys in SE asia with pings around 150 but even some US guys get pings around 180 on my public server and these are not much different to guys with 40 pings.

Originally posted by QUF:

People are just too used to RSR livetiming, to 26ºC and to Optimum surface.

Experiment having an A.I or Online race with Dusty, Slow, or Green surface grip, and put around 15ºC. This will be fun and not that easy to win and pass everyone. Even some of the A.I drivers will retire because they might overshoot the road and hit some wall or other car. The weather type also influences asphalt temperature. Want even more challenge, put road tyres for cars that have the option, instead of semi-slicks or slicks.

To me, Assetto Corsa is a great game, and not just for hotlapping on your own. But you really gotta use more realistic weather/track settings. The driving gets more challenging, but in the good way, since it requires more accurate driving/racing technique, while with optimum surface you can just throw the car around.

The other settings are nice but in MP the only thing we can really do is have lower track grip. NO weather options and temps are always 26/32. Will be nice to have more options, our main leagu nites we run from abou 94% grip levels my public server between 97 and 100 as the average person struggles already at those levels.

[Saxohare]

Yes, it is a Hotlap sim (for me), the online races are short sprint races, crowded with cheaters and wreckers.
The game doesn't have systems to regulate the races. a proper penalty system or a classification system would help.
But what the heck, i'll try a online race every now and then and perhaps i join a league


I checked the online races and perhaps its inpossibel to hack the race, you shure can cheat by cutting corners, in 2 of the 5 races i participated people are having fun in parking on the raceline and ramming other people of the track. 4 races were cut of before official ended, 2 by loosing connection to the server and 2 just by fading black.

I think you have to join a league to have real fun with the online races, so
Yes, it is a Hotlap sim (for me)

Buy and Try it because it's fun driving a car in Assetto Corsa

[quf]

Originally posted by Saxohare:

Yes, it is a Hotlap sim (for me), the online races are short sprint races, crowded with cheaters and wreckers.
The game doesn't have systems to regulate the races. a proper penalty system or a classification system would help.
But what the heck, i'll try a online race every now and then and perhaps i join a league

No it is not crowded with cheaters nor wreckers. About wrecking, yes there are some, but there are also many servers who blacklist intentional wreckers/trolls. So servers have been more clean in the last few months. But accidents in online racing will happen, not all the time from intention, but from inexperience with a car, to a certain surface grip, inexperience to race against a grid with many cars. You need some skills to keep control of the car and not bump others when there's many cars around you, at least in the initial part of the race.
About cheating, no way. AC has checksum errors for who doesn't have the same version of the content, or altered car, track, game files. So you won't be able to race. There are also restrictions on what you can setup in a car using the setup menu, cars like GT2,3, Formula, you can't lower the car too much, it won't let you race.
There is only a problem already identified by the devs, which was reported by the community. About the tourist version of nordschleife and I think of vallelunga too. I won't say what it is, until devs release the update. But only for those two tracks layouts. The normal nordschleife and nordschleife endurance are fine. Either way, in the tourist version you don't race online, is just track day experience.

[Mr.Herbi]

the only reason i play ac is the active online community. every other racing sim has only a hand full of people in mp lobby (except iracing).
i wish the same amount of people play gsce or rf2 mp, because these 2 are my favourites.

[[REDi]1R MAJ Pol Tuurd [A,D,ds]]

what ever floats your boat is good , that we have something like this game to play is just fu**king awesome I am on tender hooks looking for the next DLC , like slow drip morphine....
gimme more kunos...yeah

[GregZ85]

Originally posted by Herbaliza:

the only reason i play ac is the active online community. every other racing sim has only a hand full of people in mp lobby (except iracing).
i wish the same amount of people play gsce or rf2 mp, because these 2 are my favourites.

Yep, I tried R3E, but the servers are always empty except 1-2 which are half full.

[Mukatahren]

I wouldn't say AC is a hotlapping sim, but there are plenty of people online who only know how to hotlap and are lousy at racing.
Join a league to meet mature-minded racers - or join a pickup server for a game of chance. It's pretty much the same case online for most sims, AC is no different in this repsect.
Don't let the mindless dropkicks hold you back. There are plenty of cool people racing in AC.

[rallysmo]

YOU need to find poeple who are really good aka alien, like those in 1st place in rsr time, right now iam racing in a group with this guy "airlink" and he is faassst for instance he qualify time for sepang track was 1:35:3xx with the FF1 mod

[rudski]

Originally posted by rallysmo:

YOU need to find poeple who are really good aka alien, like those in 1st place in rsr time

No, you do not.

Having driver awareness has nothing to do with how fast you go, it typically just comes down to having a little respect for your fellow online racer.

[Marty]

No need for aliens to have good racing, many of the very quick guys I know are also very fair and clean drivers but its not always the case. A good racer knows how to control a car in traffic and there can be guys a little slower that are much better racers then some faster ones that dont know how to adjust lines side by side or how to pass slower cars without hitting them.

In my servers I dont care how fast someone is but if they dont show others any respect they will likely be kicked. Sadly a fully open public server with nobody trying to keep the worst out will became chaos very quick. Even a monitored server can turn into chaos at times but there are olenty of good fair drivers out looking for some casual racing. Thats why I try to have somehwere these guys can come for a slightly better public server experiance.

In a league or closed server racing will generally be better then any public server but for me id rather race then lap on my own.