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You can race anything (even with your feets). Racing doesn't need a fast car. Only cars that are a fair chalenge for each other. Following your logic we should only have the Lotus 98T in the game. We don't need anything else really.
In LFS some of the better race were done with the UF1000 (a 55 bhps mini). Dead slow FWD but loads of fun.
Nostalgia is one thing, but to survive the auto industry needs to evolve. You don't do a sport or the industry an favours by living in the past or refusing to change. The only thing that doesn't change in racing is the fact that it does change. It has to.
For racing cars, FWD is a poor solution. FWD was created as an idea to maximise the interior space of small cars such as the Mini; it was never intended for racing, and while the Mini had some initial success, the vast majority of FWD cars are significantly inferior to their comparable RWD and AWD competition on a track.
FWD has a slew of problems; FWD cars can't handle much power, there's a significant Torque-Steer problem, and by using the front wheels for braking, acceleration and turning you're going to ruin the tyres. BTCC cars are for the most part, designed to be cheap. If the category was more serious about performance one of the first things changed would be drive type.
There's a reason why Formula One, FIA GT, NASCAR, Indy, WEC LMP1, V-8 Supercars, DTM, SGT500, Formula Atlantic, WSR 3.5, Grand-Am, the junior Formulae, Super Taikyu, WTAC and nearly every other world-class international racing league makes use of either all or rear wheel drive. FWD has little use outside of base-level touring cars.
In 2012 the Australian Rally championship was a healthy sport. It had a large fanbase, Factory teams from Toyota, Renault and Honda, and Semi-Works entries from Nissan, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Volkswagen and Holden. It was a Group-N class, mainly AWD R4 turbo models, except for the RWD V-6 NISMO 370Z RCS and the RWD V-8 supercharged Holden Maloo SV8 Rally.
In 2013 the organisers made the controversial switch to FWD only. Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Holden, and Volkswagen and Ford's privateer teams quit immediately. Honda and Renault quit mid season, with Honda describing the decision as "farcical, unjustifiable and inexplicable" By mid season, there wasn't a single works or semi-works team left, the spectactor interest had plummited so badly that the sport was no longer televised, and the final few rounds were cancelled.
There is no need to be patronising.
I love all motorsports, all makes of car, new and old. im not biased againt motor companies.
I've been a follower of motorsports since I was a little kid, I've been involved in many motorsport events as a none spectator, worked for many motor companies, my family has a history of motorsports.
When I could afford it I owned a 240bhp(Edit:179kw in you're language)* Vectra 2.5 v6 Track Car, it was no slow coach for what it was and could top 155-160mph with ease on it's standard gearbox, it was eventually changed to a closer ratio box from another car and topped out at 140'ish mph, it was track driven every month at some realy nice UK tracks, such a mallory park, donnington park and cadwell park, it was great competition against some powerful rwd cars.
Some fwd cars can hold 400bhp with a little torque steer, as you know, technoligy has moved on, they torque steer less compaired to older less powerfull fwd cars.
I know you like to rally and seem to know what you speak of, I respect you for that, and you have an evo.. good cars.
I'm not saying I dislike supercars or lightweight mid engined sports cars and do hope we get more in Asetto Corsa.
But like YOU said, "I'd love to see some FWD cars, they'd make for an interesting new challenge."
Well the better cars we have in AC up until now are not the modern ones. And that's an understatement.
Why are they used in BTCC? Because it has always been a championship that reprisents the road car market, that is there to sell cars in the road car market. Honda for example having a race winning Civic with a FF drivetrain is advertisement for their road going Honda Civics, it is them saying "look at our race winning pedigree, FWD just like the road car".
Autocar did a segment where they tested a Mclaren MP4-12c road car against the BTCC Honda Civic and the Civic was faster by a long way, despite the Mclaren having a massive power advantage.. Obviously that difference is in the tyres, but you get the point. RWD and AWD are definitely faster design choices for a track car, but they are also heavier and more expensive to build.
Ultimately racing is about developing and selling cars (from manufacturer point of view) and so having FF racing cars makes a lot of sense, the vast majority of cars sold in the real world are FF. Obviously if you want ultimate racing then you can look at the GT championships, Formula 1, WRC etc..
Saying all that, it does confuse me as to why the Focus RS is a FWD car when the rally car it is meant to be based on is 4WD. They have obviously managed to do some great things with it, and they seem convinced being FF doesn't hurt it (not sure I agree).
why not diesel also
have the perfect car for this.would fit perfect in assetto corsa
has set an Nordschleifen record:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ka6W7WWWlM
I hope you're talking about the old one.
Ahh, Walter Rohrl, guy's a legend :)
Did you guys see this video ? there's some solid footwork going on in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVHj3sHVHQ