The Audi Quattro s1 is horrible...

[Johnny[HUN]]

The S1!! not the normal. First of all, where is the S1 paintings and the modules? Spoilers, skids etc... And why i can't adjust the gear ratio?! Its a darn rally car, and the default setup is like a circuit car. And the handling of the S1 is so... old. I mean if it would be a rally car it should be much quicker and more responsive. Now its like the road version Sport Quattro. It corners bad, brakes bad.

Please... don't ruin my dreams :D Who else experience something like me?

EDIT: There was a misunderstanding... i expected an other car, but the title misled me
What a pity...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDRkHXMHqFo

[Andrex]

The first what I drove with 1.2 Version, was the AudiQuatro S1 on Zandvoort. At the beginning I thougt, oh lord what a car, horrible to drive, by breaking I got quickly a back spin.
I tweaked then the Setup, so that the back is more stable by breaking and some other things. After tweaking the Car, I was able to drive 1.58 min on that track.
In my first rounds I shifted to early down, from 3 to 2 gear and the back turned out, the engine break is very hard from 3 to 2 gear, so I had to shift down a bit later or keeped the 3 gear in the corner.

[Johnny[HUN]]

i never heard that step idiot thing... i was only focused on the Audi Sportquattro, and for its rally version. In Dirt series, Forza motorsport 4, Gran Turismo series, WRC series they have only the PROPER S1 RALLY quattro, and not this idiot misleading schit... well i am quiet disappointed, road version is nothing for me, i wanted to climb the hills like with the alfa romeo 155, i can't even race properly with this on nürburgring due to its schit cornering capability

[*.zip]

Johnny eredeti hozzászólása:

i never heard that step idiot thing... i was only focused on the Audi Sportquattro, and for its rally version. In Dirt series, Forza motorsport 4, Gran Turismo series, WRC series they have only the PROPER S1 RALLY quattro, and not this idiot misleading schit... well i am quiet disappointed, road version is nothing for me, i wanted to climb the hills like with the alfa romeo 155, i can't even race properly with this on nürburgring due to its schit cornering capability

You have my sympathies.

[kazereal]

Johnny eredeti hozzászólása:

i never heard that step idiot thing...

It is naming used by AC for different "tuning" levels of cars.

In games like Gran Turismo similar naming might V-Spec or similar, for example. And there are others like that in different games and manufacturers/brands and so on.

Audi has used many ways of naming that sound similar but are not same thing, for example road-going R8 is very different from LMP1 class R8 racecar.

Edit: still, I am wondering if suspension really is that soft and brake balance somehow odd..

[quf]

Johnny eredeti hozzászólása:

i never heard that step idiot thing... i was only focused on the Audi Sportquattro, and for its rally version. In Dirt series, Forza motorsport 4, Gran Turismo series, WRC series they have only the PROPER S1 RALLY quattro, and not this idiot misleading schit... well i am quiet disappointed, road version is nothing for me, i wanted to climb the hills like with the alfa romeo 155, i can't even race properly with this on nürburgring due to its schit cornering capability

Then please inform yourself about the audi quattro, and about the sport version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_Quattro

[SpeedFreakz]

You own the game and you didn't notice on a lot of other cars that they have ( s1"STAGE ONE"),( s2"Stage two") and ( s3"Stage three") ? They have had that system for cars since the sim came out and the audi that is in the game is just a road version that has LOTS of power. So it is a beast for hillclimbing!! ps My mods still work, so it must me something on your end that is not right.

[SeriousSpy]

Johnny eredeti hozzászólása:

i never heard that step idiot thing... i was only focused on the Audi Sportquattro, and for its rally version. In Dirt series, Forza motorsport 4, Gran Turismo series, WRC series they have only the PROPER S1 RALLY quattro, and not this idiot misleading schit... well i am quiet disappointed, road version is nothing for me, i wanted to climb the hills like with the alfa romeo 155, i can't even race properly with this on nürburgring due to its schit cornering capability

AC uses S1/S2/S3 for their "upgrade" system, check the Ferrari 458, or the M3s, they have the same system, it has nothing to do with the rally car.

[spoon66]

Its the Road going version of the Sport Quattro . the basics the UR Quattro was the standard Long wheel based car the Lautch 4WD in rallying.

It was heavy 6 based on a FWD car layout . the pwerfull 5 cyclinder turbo motor & 4WD overcame the short comings of a heavy car with to much foward waight.

very much all over the front axel some like only 36 % of the cars total waight was over the rear axel , thus the major handeling problems.

Soon as the new Group B cars started to hit the road the Quattros shortcomes came to the for.
Thus Audi had to find a solution even shortening the standard Quattro to make the Sport Quattro didnt solve the major problem of balance the car was even more twitch than the standard cars both with even more power .

The car will alawys understeer & suffer from that twitchy rear end , the Great Walter Röhrl said at first could not drive the Quattro he slid off the road at every bend , he only mastered it after perfecting his left foot braking to balance the car when turning into bends.

He is one of the few people ever to get a result with the Sports Quattro in its S1 & E1 one forms.

So in real life its a hard car to drive at the limit .

The Quattro may have been the start of 4WD sports cars but it was a limited by its links to any older FWD model that the car was based on.

So I find its driving closer to how people discribe the real cars.

[Johnny[HUN]]

rainman666 eredeti hozzászólása:

You own the game and you didn't notice on a lot of other cars that they have ( s1"STAGE ONE"),( s2"Stage two") and ( s3"Stage three") ? They have had that system for cars since the sim came out and the audi that is in the game is just a road version that has LOTS of power. So it is a beast for hillclimbing!! ps My mods still work, so it must me something on your end that is not right.

Well to be honest, i always went with 2-3 car only. Alfa 155 for Pikes peak, BMW m3 dtm for the rest hillclimb, Mercedes c9 for nürburgring solo and for online only GT cars.

So i never really rode with cars that have s1,s2 versions.

[quf]

Johnny eredeti hozzászólása:

rainman666 eredeti hozzászólása:

You own the game and you didn't notice on a lot of other cars that they have ( s1"STAGE ONE"),( s2"Stage two") and ( s3"Stage three") ? They have had that system for cars since the sim came out and the audi that is in the game is just a road version that has LOTS of power. So it is a beast for hillclimbing!! ps My mods still work, so it must me something on your end that is not right.

Well to be honest, i always went with 2-3 car only. Alfa 155 for Pikes peak, BMW m3 dtm for the rest hillclimb, Mercedes c9 for nürburgring solo and for online only GT cars.

So i never really rode with cars that have s1,s2 versions.

Yep, some have a Drift spec, like some of the BMWs. Which doesn't mean is easier to drift, proper techniques are still needed, but are more prone to drifting than their normal versions of the car.
Some of the Lotus also have stage versions, the ferrari 458 italia, F40, this new audi sport quattro, and abarth 500 has an S1.

[Jim]

I actually understand where the OP is coming from.
It's OK that AC uses S3 etc for cars, like on the F40 but it IS a cause for confusion wen there is an actual car called the Audi S1 and in game it's a different car to the one Group B fans know and love, and have done for decades.

It's not the OPs fault that these two terms have clashed like this and I completely get where he is coming from.

[Johnny[HUN]]

Jim eredeti hozzászólása:

I actually understand where the OP is coming from.
It's OK that AC uses S3 etc for cars, like on the F40 but it IS a cause for confusion wen there is an actual car called the Audi S1 and in game it's a different car to the one Group B fans know and love, and have done for decades.

It's not the OPs fault that these two terms have clashed like this and I completely get where he is coming from.

Exactly. I am such a big fan of the Group B cars, mainly the Quattro S1 that i didn't realise that there are these leveling performance cars, and i expected a way different thing... But anyway i couldn't say a word because it's free, i am just very disappointed.

[Jim]

Johnny eredeti hozzászólása:

Jim eredeti hozzászólása:

I actually understand where the OP is coming from.
It's OK that AC uses S3 etc for cars, like on the F40 but it IS a cause for confusion wen there is an actual car called the Audi S1 and in game it's a different car to the one Group B fans know and love, and have done for decades.

It's not the OPs fault that these two terms have clashed like this and I completely get where he is coming from.

Exactly. I am such a big fan of the Group B cars, mainly the Quattro S1 that i didn't realise that there are these leveling performance cars, and i expected a way different thing... But anyway i couldn't say a word because it's free, i am just very disappointed.

I expected the same when I very first read about it because I am a Group B rally fan waaayyyy before I know about names in video games that may or may not have been made up by Kunos.

The Group B car was named the S1 decades before this game came out and I think you've had a hard time for no reason here, true rally fans will totally get your point.

All you have to do is search Google images for 'Quattro S1' to prove how right you've been all along:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=quattro+s1&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=989&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CCAQsARqFQoTCLXD17zfhscCFY4I2wodot8EHw

[quf]

Well, its your own disappointment because you thought something was but wasn't in the first place. So you were illuded by something you were convinced of, although Kunos always announced as part of Bonus Pack, the car would be audi sport quattro (street version), and they even showed images of the car. They never showed any images of a rally audi quattro, but always of the street version.

[Jim]

QUF eredeti hozzászólása:

Well, its your own disappointment because you thought something was but wasn't in the first place. So you were illuded by something you were convinced of, although Kunos always announced as part of Bonus Pack, the car would be audi sport quattro (street version), and they even showed images of the car. They never showed any images of a rally audi quattro, but always of the street version.

He was dissapointed because there is no Quattro S1 in this game.

It was however advertised as the 'step 1' so I dunno, I can see both sides.

Although I do agree that the images of the car in game were enough info for most people - me included to see what the deal was. So minus ppoints there OP.