Assetto Corsa

Assetto Corsa

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imV8er 13/set./2020 às 1:29
THE WORST CAR SIMULATION
this is tho most awfull car simulation i have ever played on pc. too far away from real physics and feedback.
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bobyblobfish 19/set./2020 às 9:38 
How silly do you have to be to think you proved Assetto corsa is “arcade” by comparing it to forza? Assetto corsa is the most realistic race sim besides the DiRt series. Comparing it to forza is just... silly.
EF_Neo1st 19/set./2020 às 9:59 
Escrito originalmente por bobyblobfish:
How silly do you have to be to think you proved Assetto corsa is “arcade” by comparing it to forza? Assetto corsa is the most realistic race sim besides the DiRt series. Comparing it to forza is just... silly.
Probably a realistic driving is driving a shopping cart at the mall.
As Forza gets close to that, with about the same physics, damage to "engine" and effects when you bump another shopping cart, then Forza is the most realistic one (but hey, at Forza you have a 300Km/h+ super shopping carts!!!) :steammocking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WW-k4l1ko8
^The pinnacle of realism, how dare AC, ACC, rF2, AMS2 call themselves simulators when they cant even deliver all this perfection of driving physics !!!
NGT 19/set./2020 às 11:36 
Thats what i though as well... You realize that when you see half the cars on the track just oversteer like supermarket carts on ice....
I purchased the game and i thought i could play. But nah steering angle grip very narrow and non responsive like the car is on bricks Once you slow down and try to calculate the optimum grip in the front tyres BAMMM --> Oversteer like crazy like your rear end was built from a 1910 ford.... Even if you are driving a FWD car...
I try to make it low and as soft as possible on the rear so its mildly playable
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EF_Neo1st 19/set./2020 às 12:00 
Escrito originalmente por Ngt:
Thats what i though as well... You realize that when you see half the cars on the track just oversteer like supermarket carts on ice....
I purchased the game and i thought i could play. But nah steering angle grip very narrow and non responsive like the car is on bricks Once you slow down and try to calculate the optimum grip in the front tyres BAMMM --> Oversteer like crazy like your rear end was built from a 1910 ford.... Even if you are driving a FWD car...
I try to make it low and as soft as possible on the rear so its mildly playable
As I guess it is what you used for your review:
"Unplayable with keyboard. All cars oversteer like they are carts in a supermarket.
I noticed gameplay with wheel and pedals on youtube, they seem to oversteer like crazy as well...
Cars feel stiff unresponsive and sensitive at the same time its like i m trying to balance a knife edge"
You need to brake right and right where you need to brake, if you brake through the turn or go full brake you will understeer (or with some cars you will oversteer and spin), it is not a GTA or a NFS game you can go full brake AND do the turns anyway because tyres wont lock.
For keyboard you would need to go full brake for a time then start fast tapping the brake (and reducing the fast taps to slow taps) then when you are slow tapping the brakes start slow tapping the throttle (then fast tap the throttle untill you can go full throttle).

You can not just go full steer either, it will cause a massive angle on the wheels and tyre wont get grip, it will just slide as the tyres wont be at proper angle for the speed.

Consider this:
The more you brake the less you can turn.
The more you turn the less you can use throttle.

So, entering a turn you should (in this order):
- Go full brake without turning, just on straight (and dont use throttle)
- fast tapping brake while you start slow tapping to turn (again, no use of throttle)
- slow tapping brake while you start fast tapping throttle and fast tapping turn
- go full throttle and just small tap to steering or not even using steering anymore (and no use of brake anymore)
All the process only once, without braking, throttle neither steering corrections, and your turn will be done right and much better, without understeer or oversteer . . . stil you need to find the limits of each car and each car will behave differently according to your inputs.

That is how you are supposed to drive with the keyboard and if you just go full brake while trying t turn, it just wont turn at all . . . and the shopping cart physics is Forza Motorsport 7 like the video example showing all the pinnacle of FM7 physics in all its glorious arcadish physics.
Mr Deap 19/set./2020 às 12:25 
Escrito originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Consider this:
The more you brake the less you can turn.
The more you turn the less you can use throttle.

Esport lap time contradict everything you claim. Brake is still floored very close to the apex.
https://imgur.com/uYAJNW5
https://imgur.com/hdnIv0c

Bomb dive with the brake bring illumination to be esport ready.
EF_Neo1st 19/set./2020 às 12:45 
Escrito originalmente por Mr Deap:
Escrito originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Consider this:
The more you brake the less you can turn.
The more you turn the less you can use throttle.

Esport lap time contradict everything you claim. Brake is still floored very close to the apex.
https://imgur.com/uYAJNW5
https://imgur.com/hdnIv0c

Bomb dive with the brake bring illumination to be esport ready.
What happened?
You tried to live the dream at esports being 8s slower/lap and prefer to blame it on something else other than you not being good enough?
Mr Deap 19/set./2020 às 12:46 
I'm blaming you right now, cause you're lying.
bobyblobfish 19/set./2020 às 12:47 
Escrito originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Escrito originalmente por Mr Deap:

Esport lap time contradict everything you claim. Brake is still floored very close to the apex.
https://imgur.com/uYAJNW5
https://imgur.com/hdnIv0c

Bomb dive with the brake bring illumination to be esport ready.
What happened?
You tried to live the dream at esports being 8s slower/lap and prefer to blame it on something else other than you not being good enough?
you attempted to make fun of someone and hurt me instead :steamsad:
EF_Neo1st 19/set./2020 às 13:06 
Escrito originalmente por bobyblobfish:
Escrito originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
What happened?
You tried to live the dream at esports being 8s slower/lap and prefer to blame it on something else other than you not being good enough?
you attempted to make fun of someone and hurt me instead :steamsad:
Not really?
Why I hurt you?
You dont seem to be blaming the game.
pommyroo01 19/set./2020 às 23:11 
Escrito originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Escrito originalmente por pommyroo01:

No just been playing 3 Real Racing on my Smart TV with a Logictech Controller and wanted to to get into SIM racing, looks like I just need to spend some hours praticing!
3 Real Racing, AC and what else?

Btw, as I said before, the sense of speed is more about your FOV but, the wider and more open the FOV the harder it is to tell the distances nd braking points (also the less realistic it is).
https://dinex86.github.io/FOV-Calculator/

At a simulator, you dont want to be going wild with inputs and steering, you want to go as smooth as you can and not overdriving your car.
9:25 at the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwhOTZwCD2Q
Going wild give the "false sense" that you are going faster, when you are going slower through the track (and indeed, this same concept apply to arcade racing games too, you want just enough inputs to do the turn, not turning, braking and releasing throttle like crazy with correctons and over-corrections all the time, if you are doing it, you are not braking at the right spot, not using throttle where you should neither doing the proper racing line, even on arcade games).


Thanks for your feedback and video, very helpful.
EF_Neo1st 20/set./2020 às 5:11 
Escrito originalmente por Mr Deap:
I'm blaming you right now, cause you're lying.
Everyone know you are wrong or just lying, everyone that is not a complete troll or a total newcomer to simulators (that think forza is the true simulator, or that NFS and GTA are simulators) and real driving know that you are either trolling (and lying) or just plain wrong having an absurd vendetta against simulators for whatever the reason (that from your words it literally look like you could not accept you could not reach alien times or anywhere near alien times), to the point you spend time throwing absurds and even showing videos debunking your own words on simulators you never owned (so . . you feel like, a strong feeling, that you "must be right and reassure that you are right" everywhere, even at places you didnt ever had the simulators and games).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvcuGoVhpxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMAvgpyu9g4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Czacauviyk
Real life professionals inputs on real life cars and real life professionals explaining on videos dont agree with you, also if you do it wrong, the release of brake, starting the use of throttle or start turning wrong or at the wrong moments, you will cause the car to either spin or understeer with tyres locked or at the wrong angle for the turn . . . and what you refuse to understand is exactly that, that "you" do it wrong, never really understod that and "you" are not good enough to get anywhere near esports or to alien times (or to be a real life professional driver), also you seem to dont understand what "rear bias" to brakes mean either (neither the fact that depending on how you brake and how you use throttle you can induce the car to understeer or oversteer) and, if you think Assetto Corsa is a understeer simulator, like you said:
Escrito originalmente por Mr Deap:
I think op is exaggerating the issue.

Assetto Corsa may be the world best understeer simulator that you have to keep your brake floored almost to the apex & all the fanboy only loves tracks you can exploit those. Although, it has lot of mod available with many real world track to learn & you can learn to setup your car.
If it really is an "understeer simulator" to you it just indicate . . that you drive everything the same and drive everything plain wrong, because each car is a beast of its own and drives differently the more on the limits you try to drive.

I am not saying any of the simulators available to be purchased and run at home computers are the same as Mercedes F1 team simulator used to test the specs of their cars and to test the limits of their cars on the eal life tracks before the car get to the track, no, but each of the simulators are good enough to teach how to drive properly and better when these simulators have the fundamentals right and, denying the fundamentals just becaue you are being mental about it (and again, if you was not being mental you would not be doing a crusade through simulators you dont even have) and repeating it hundreds of times everywhere wont make it more true just because "you said so" (because you never really understood or never really could make any of it work).
Sniper-Alpha 20/set./2020 às 6:56 
some kind of idiot that cant play the game wrote this comment for sure lmfao
Mr Deap 20/set./2020 às 8:31 
Escrito originalmente por EF_Neo1st:
Escrito originalmente por Mr Deap:
I'm blaming you right now, cause you're lying.
Everyone know you are wrong or just lying, everyone that is not a complete troll or a total newcomer to simulators (that think forza is the true simulator, or that NFS and GTA are simulators) and real driving know that you are either trolling (and lying) or just plain wrong having an absurd vendetta against simulators for whatever the reason
I don't have a vendetta.

You're insulting what gaming is about. AC is a videogame & the realism is overrated like all other simulator. You definitely see in the picture that the input in GT Sport is more accurate than both AC & ACC. Not only you're denying legit picture with proof, but now you're creating false stuff.

It's an understeer simulator. Obviously, you see in Kunos pic at "les combe" from reputable sources & the brake floored near the apex. Also, how can you teach people trail braking? lol, The brake is floored, that ain't trail braking, it's arcade.

You might have to explain those floored brake pics, before even trolling about fake realism. Also, Lewis Hamilton shared in a article that the mercedes simulator is no better than a playstation game.

EF_Neo1st 20/set./2020 às 9:05 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeDRqV519rY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLIqPxaSS0E

Simulators are not 100% accurate, much less are the ones normal people can purchase to use at home computers, every simulator is always improving and the next generation of simulators much more than the previous, for obvious reasons (knowledge and technology that allow for better simulation) but the practice someone learn can be translated to real life and vice-versa.

Well . . . I already overdid with the "conversation" by starting it and I will just follow this:
https://miro.medium.com/max/700/1*tNWlizJJJo2Uvw3Ix15UDw.jpeg
and go back to just ignore what trolls have to say.
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