why is the controlling so hard compared to FH 4? #newtoassetto

[capriolo]

Hi guys, bought assetto and Logitech G29. I am trying to play with Keyboard until my Wheel is delivered. But why is the controling so hard with keyboard?

i have played forza horizon with the keyboard all the time but its uncontrolabe on Assetto.
Can somebody help?

Or is this only playable with Wheel or so?

I have no mods installed so far but im willing to drive in Tokio nightrides etc like ive seen on some videos / tiktoks

[Mustafa06_offical]

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[capriolo]

Publicado originalmente por Mustafa06_offical:

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[dontmindme]

assetto requires finer management of gas, break, and steering that is not possible or either very hard without a gamepad/wheel

[EF_Neo1st]

Publicado originalmente por capriolo:

Hi guys, bought assetto and Logitech G29. I am trying to play with Keyboard until my Wheel is delivered. But why is the controling so hard with keyboard?

i have played forza horizon with the keyboard all the time but its uncontrolabe on Assetto.
Can somebody help?

Or is this only playable with Wheel or so?

I have no mods installed so far but im willing to drive in Tokio nightrides etc like ive seen on some videos / tiktoks

Because while FH4 is arcade AC is a simulator and the arcade inputs that work at FH4 dont work at AC (not without you losing control and crashing, going offtrack or parking sideways or against the traffic).

Keyboard inputs (on/off inputs) are not accepted good by simulators.

[ling.speed]

Games like forza generally have adjusted more complex physics values like inertia or slip angle curves to create better handling with simpler control methods like keyboard or pads.

Some of those will also feature straight up "hacks" (forces from nowhere) to make the car behave better. AC has almost none of that.



Biggest thing is that slip angle curve. For fat race tyres, turning the tyre 1 degree means BIG change in side force, and past like 5-7 degees you get force reduction and other adverse effects. Arcade games or even simcade like Wreckfest simplify that so there is no reduction of grip past ideal slip angle, and that angle is often much higher like 15-20 degrees, meaning any twitch in the controls, or whole car slide has much smoother effect.

Same with tyre load sensitivity. In sims and real life the grip depends heavily on how much load there is on the tyre. Keyboard sucks, because to get the best grip out of the tyre you need careful managment of accelerationg (brake and throttle). Too much braking and tyres are too worked up to turn, too little braking and there is not enough load to turn. Getting into the sweetspot requires precision, so arcade games simplify or even remove that effect completely.

And thats the thing before we get into known variables, like tyre temperatures, camber etc. They all have their marigins for the car to work correctly, and depend heavily on how accurate you can be with the controls.

Some rare games do simulate all that to some degree and have a layer of AI control that puts the steering accurately to correct angle when you press on the arrow key (like codemasters F1 series). Which is unfortunately not in AC, mostly because its a indie sim with limited resources.


ps: Driving keyboard is possible but you need to understand/feel car handling, and that comes with experiance. After like few dozens of hours on wheel, you will be much better with keyboard too... but not the other way around.

[Nox]

Forza is built to be able to drive with a keyboard, and thus has little assists for it. Assetto corsa doesn't. Assetto is a simulator. Imagine driving your car without being able to modulate. Full gas, full brakes, nothing in between. Same with steering; hard left and hard right, nothing in between.

You can imagine you probably wouldn't make it out of your neighborhood that way.

[Karmaterrorᵁᴷ]

Try putting the setting "speed sensitive steering" up to 100%. It limits how much angle the tyres will turn based on how fast you are going, helps smooth things out on a pad and should help with twitchy on/off turning on keyboard.

For acceleration and brakes best i can think of is make sure you have the realism set to gamer. This will give you full traction control, abs and some assists which may mitigate the on/off problems you would have without it :)

[ElixiR]

FH= arcade
Assetto= Simulator
Thats all

[fatmosthegreat]

skill issue