Clubsport v2.5 vs CSL Elite?

[Cheeze]

I asked earlier what wheel i should get as an upgrade for my g29.
I've decided to go for fanatec, but im unsure which one to get. Is the v2.5 really worth the extra asking price? Fanatec has a great deal where you get 3 pedal set with loadcell and a CSL Elite wheelbase for 650 Euro. v2.5 with a 2 pedal set is 700 Euro. What are your thoughts?

[Mr Crisp]

Get the three pedal set with loadcell brake. I have had Fanatec Elite v2 pedals for over two years and I wouldn't go without a loadcell brake ever again- the feel is just fantastic.

I'm not sure of the difference between the CSL and CS 2.5 but if price is important, the loadcell brake with the CSL Elite is probably the best to go for.

[NIKKI IXX]

Get the 700 euro set. Definately worth the extra 50. Does it have a loadcell brake? You at least can add the kit. I have the older V2 and V3 pedals and plan to upgrade to the Fani Direct Drive when they come out.

[CarDr]

Upcoming black Friday deals, check their community forum (link is near top center on the site). CSL elite starter pack 299.95, and go for the cultch / load cell add-on kit for 130 (if the sale will not allow upgrade). It would be wise to setup your account before the rush.

https://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/563/black-friday-2017

For most sim racers, good pedals will make the best increase in lap times for hardware upgrades- load cell brake is highly recommended.
Are the club sports & V2.5 worth the additional money? Yes, if you can afford them.

[CarDr]

@ NIKKI, the new (McLaren?) formula/LMP rim will be available for pre-order.

https://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/562/x

[craigh95630]

CarDr の投稿を引用：

Upcoming black Friday deals, check their community forum (link is near top center on the site). CSL elite starter pack 299.95, and go for the cultch / load cell add-on kit for 130 (if the sale will not allow upgrade). It would be wise to setup your account before the rush.

https://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/563/black-friday-2017

For most sim racers, good pedals will make the best increase in lap times for hardware upgrades- load cell brake is highly recommended.
Are the club sports & V2.5 worth the additional money? Yes, if you can afford them.

Dude...thanks for the info on the black Friday sale. Here I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a Thrustmaster T300 Alcantara then pair with Fanatec CSL Elite pedals with the load cell mod, but now seriously looking at Deal #3 which is the CSL Elite wheel starter pack for only $299! Add on the load cell brake mod and that is basically the cost of just the T300 without the pedals. I think I just found my economical path to going Fanatec instead. Only issue is the wheel with the Fanatec starter pack appears to be rubber grip material on the wheel instead of Alcantara, however also heard from others that the Alcantara gets pretty jacked up from long driving sessions unless you wear gloves, so maybe this is the better choice.

The only thing is I see some people have had quality issues with Fanatec stuff breaking, however it seems there is also a pretty high rate of T300's breaking down as well so I think it all balances in terms of risk with either or.

[jack.anderson19]

Only issue is the wheel with the Fanatec starter pack appears to be rubber grip material on the wheel instead of Alcantara, - quote

I'd be more worried about the plastic wheel cracking at the base attachment . Get any one of their F1 , bmw or porshe rims as these have an aluminum base for quick release .

[craigh95630]

I saw some initial reviews of early versions that said that they thought the quick release mechanism on that wheel was not really a true quick release and seemed like with the amount of force to take off and on, it could be prone to breaking. However I saw Fanatec comment somewhere in my online research that they realized this and revised the material to a stronger FRP. Then saw some other reviews that said once the wheel is on, it's definitely solid and so far haven't seen any complaints about broken wheels.

Still, someone else did mention today to me with the money I am saving, if I added another $100 on that I could get their black Friday deal for the universal hub which comes with a free rim. Only thing is right now they don't specify which rims qualify as your free rim.

Not sure if I will spend the money saved on another wheel, upgrade to the inverted Clubsport V3 pedals instead of the CSL Elites, or get a shifter (probably a Thrustmaster TH8A instead of the Fanatec one).

[NIKKI IXX]

A load cell brake is essential, and I understand that with the black friday sale's, and in general, that's what's driving your decision. But don't underestimate what a better base will add to your experience.
If you end up with the CSL, and after the Direct Drive base arrives, you will be sitting there with 3rd teer hardware, wondering what it would be like. Consider a package that you can upgrade or maybe save till you can afford one of the higher grade V2.5 bases or DD.


Cardr: That wheel looks cool, but I already have a Formula Carbon with upgraded Ascher Racing Magnetic Shifters. I wish it had been a FerrarI 458 Rim

[craigh95630]

NIKKI IXX の投稿を引用：

A load cell brake is essential, and I understand that with the black friday sale's, and in general, that's what's driving your decision. But don't underestimate what a better base will add to your experience.
If you end up with the CSL, and after the Direct Drive base arrives, you will be sitting there with 3rd teer hardware, wondering what it would be like. Consider a package that you can upgrade or maybe save till you can afford one of the higher grade V2.5 bases or DD.


Cardr: That wheel looks cool, but I already have a Formula Carbon with upgraded Ascher Racing Magnetic Shifters. I wish it had been a FerrarI 458 Rim

Yeah I know, but I can't justify spending that much on my sim setup at this time when I have a real track car that demands it's own constant stream of funding to pay for track days and maintenance. Plus I honestly don't always have a lot of time available to sim race. I'm warped in that I translate my purchases into number of track days...this purchase will already cost me about 3 track days...LOL. The CSL Elite base is still a huge step up from my old G27 especially with a load cell brake. As long as I don't ever try a DD or a V2.5 then I won't know what I am missing, therefore I'll be totally content with what I have.

I am seriously considering getting the Clubsport BMW wheel though instead of the cheapo stock P1 wheel it comes with.

[CarDr]

The CSL rim uses a plastic QR to keep the cost down. It does have an advantage of being lighter in weight = faster wheel speed & response time. 30g lighter than the formula rims. The BMW rim is a good quality build, but the heaviest of the all, almost 2X the CSL. With the V2 it feels right at home on the heavier road and stock cars, ok on the GT3’s, for open wheel/ formula’s you’ll want that lighter wheel.

I never had the opportunity to try the elite base, but the construction looks like a crossbreed of a CSR & CSW. It should make that G27 feel like an old farm tractor. With the V2/2.5 it’s not so much of the added power, but the smoothness of the internal components that allow the small /fine FB signals to come through. Signals that can be lost within the hardware of other wheels.

If you do get a Fanatec, look for a 3rd party app called ‘Fanaleds’. It can add features for rev lights, variable led readouts, and vibration motors (found in CSP’s and some rims). Check their forum for user shared files.

[ fanaleds.com ]

[craigh95630]

I saw that, however am always driving in VR so any LEDs on the wheel won't be visible to me while driving. It's what also makes a $259 additional wheel kind of hard to swallow right now. I will only feel it the majority of the time, I won't see it much. That has me waffling over just getting the P1 Elite alacantara wheel instead but then I'm back to a plastic QR hub and a 300mm diameter. I like to have a larger wheel so it's closer to the wheel in my track car. Decisions...decisions.

[craigh95630]

Man...talk about drama getting stuff ordered from Fanatec last night, but got it done. They were totally unprepared for the response they got and their website was constantly crashing. I kind of went bonkers but I wanted a complete package. Went with the CSL Starter pack with the Elite base and pedals, added the load cell pedal, got the BMW clubsport wheel, and then got the shifter as well. Also got a cockpit rig that comes without a seat, and I have an extra Miata seat in my garage I am going to mount on it. Once budget permits again, may get a Buttkicker kit also.

[CarDr]

That’s why I recommended to make an account before the sale started. Your order will remain listed as pending until your stuff leaves the warehouse located in SoCal (La Mirada IIRC). The SQ shifter was a wise choice, the H action/throw reminds me of the BMW’s.

As far as the buttkicker, have you done any research into transducer / bass shakers? Arura and Dayton on sale at parts express. They do have random sales throughout the year too.

https://www.parts-express.com/aurasound-ast-2b-4-pro-bass-shaker-tactile-transducer--299-028

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sa25-25w-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-782#lblProductDetails

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sa70-70w-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-784

[NIKKI IXX]

CarDr の投稿を引用：

That’s why I recommended to make an account before the sale started. Your order will remain listed as pending until your stuff leaves the warehouse located in SoCal (La Mirada IIRC). The SQ shifter was a wise choice, the H action/throw reminds me of the BMW’s.

As far as the buttkicker, have you done any research into transducer / bass shakers? Arura and Dayton on sale at parts express. They do have random sales throughout the year too.

https://www.parts-express.com/aurasound-ast-2b-4-pro-bass-shaker-tactile-transducer--299-028

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sa25-25w-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-782#lblProductDetails

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-sa70-70w-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-784

That's the setup I have. It's really nice for the money. Way cheaper quad setup than overpriced Buttkicker stuff.

Congrats on the buy OP

[jack.anderson19]

craigh95630 の投稿を引用：

Man...talk about drama getting stuff ordered from Fanatec last night, but got it done. They were totally unprepared for the response they got and their website was constantly crashing. I kind of went bonkers but I wanted a complete package. Went with the CSL Starter pack with the Elite base and pedals, added the load cell pedal, got the BMW clubsport wheel, and then got the shifter as well. Also got a cockpit rig that comes without a seat, and I have an extra Miata seat in my garage I am going to mount on it. Once budget permits again, may get a Buttkicker kit also.

Haa ha - I know as I was awake through some of this . All sorts of crashes n timeouts etc .